Thursday, April 05, 2007

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83 comments:

t-dot kim said...

I couldn't resist.

Thanks Holly...Tholly!

Jon said...

quite the rod.

Anonymous said...

Anyone listened to the official LOST podcast yet for this week? Outrageously funny.

-J

MB said...

#4

MB said...

love the thread title!

elias said...

his rod is long and thin

aimee in little rock said...

Sawyer must be tired from holding that thing up all day.

(sorry, couldn't resist)

I can't believe how huge this blogspot has exploded. We've never had threads with this many posts before. I find it almost exhausting, but awesome at the same time. You really can't afford to disappear for more than a few hours, otherwise you'll be way behind.

Casey, I'm sorry you didn't get the Red Sox job! I know it must be annoying for everyone to feed you cliques and tell you how awesome you are and everything, so I'll try not to say anything lame. Whatever you did, you were doing right, because it got you a call-back. So at the least, you know your efforts weren't wasted because they got you noticed, which is important.

The Office was great last night! I was so excited when I saw Andy was back! Ryan & Kelly were so funny, and I don't even need to mention Dwight.

Thinking about the Juliet loyalty issue: Last season, we had an episode titled "One of Them" and the purpose was to determine if Ben was one of them, and it turned out he was. Next week, we have Juliet's episode titled "One of Us", so if we followed the same type of logic, that would mean that Juliet would be (no longer allied with the Others).

What do you think?

PalmerEldritch said...

works for me, aimee.

things like that usually end up being less confusing than we LOST conspiracy theorists might imagine.

the OLP was pretty good this week, J. interesting that they said that Rousseau would eventually get a flashback episode. season 4 maybe? or maybe another of their pie-in-the-sky ideas that won't come to fruition?

seems every year they have all these "great" ideas that don't work out like they'd planned. the ana-lucia, jack, kate triangle that never happened, the multiple pikki episodes, etc.

PalmerEldritch said...

found something for Rolph and Boner:
Who will be the NEXT host of the Price Is Right?

memphish said...

Kim, thanks for the shoutout on the picture. It's purrr-fect for this board.

Casey, sorry about this job, but keep at it.

Aimee as for Juliet being "One of Us" I think she is but that it refers to her being on of the Others while Jack, who's back is One of Lostie Us. Back in SIASL Ben says to Jack:Juliet doesn't care about you, Jack. It doesn't matter what she's done. No matter what you think... she's one of us.

Ben's favorite mind fuck is when he's telling the truth but the mark just won't believe him. I think there really are hamsters too, but they may be giant smokey hamsters.

And for those of you impressed with Juliet's Kung-Fu Grip on Kate in the jungle, check out this page.

Holli

Anonymous said...

can kim from t-dot or aimee in little rock explain what the origins of the phrase "that's what she said" are? I've been watching Season 2 of The Office lately and have heard it being said a LOT, I finally found out what it meant, I just don't know how or where it started.

Like elias' post #6 on this thread ... "his rod is long and thin" ... is that something you'd answer with a "that's what she said"???

-J

aimee in little rock said...

Speaking of which, what the heck happened to Rousseau in this episode? Now that she's seen Alex, do you think she's following the Others to wherever it was they were headed?

PalmerEldritch said...

Scroll down for the pop culture origin of "That's What She Said"

did anyone watch American Idol the other day? I was waiting for Tony Bennett to come sing and got Michael Buble instead. which was disappointing but OK... until he was all slurring his words and dancing like a weirdo. what was up with that?

it'd be fantastic if since the Losties are going back to the beach and the Others are off backpacking with Locke, Rousseau moved in to the Other's village and just hung out playing pool by herself and watching TV.

Tall Guy said...

Aimee

I think's exactly where Rousseau went. She followed The Others on their trek. She may not feel she's able to approach Alex yet. but she'll be staying close. Makes sense to me.

Another matter. People have been wondering why Smokezilla didn't just flow over the sonic fence? I don't have a problem with this. We've never seen Smokezilla fly, as such. It hovers, but we've never seen it far above ground or in the tree tops. A twelve foot fence is probably beyond it.

PalmerEldritch said...

can smokezilla/lostzilla/smokemunster/themonster/smokey/flashy burrow? or was that just a hole that was previously there that it tried to drag johnny boy locke down?

PalmerEldritch said...

casey! i just read that Dice-K threw 108 pitches in his MLB debut. ack!

memphish said...

Palmer, some would say that according to the Blast Door map, Smokey, assuming Smokey is Cerberus, lives underground and rises to the surface through vents marked CV on the blast door map. Supposedly those jigsaw puzzles they sold tell you that CV means Cerberus Vent. It would make sense the Cerberus would live underground because in mythology he/they guard the entrance to Hades.

Holli

aimee in little rock said...

I forgot about that for last week's podcast; I was going to discuss the completed puzzles and decoded messages! My bad. This is why I have to have notes or else I'm useless.

I can't imagine Rousseau just wandering off now. If she hasn't seen her daughter in 16 years, and JUST NOW found her, I wouldn't think she'd let her out of her sight again.

elias said...

That kung-fu grip site is hilarious.

I always thought "that's what she said" was ripped from The Office, but I do remember it from Wayne's World now.

Listening to the brand new OLP, Cuseloff have teased that Juliet may be on her own mission.

PalmerEldritch said...

holli, the link dusna work. :(

puzzles?

memphish said...

Sorry Palmer. Try this one.

Holli

Jordan from the 206 said...

Aimee: "I find it almost exhausting, but awesome at the same time."

That's what she said.

That's what she said.

And back to the office for a sec. It's probably a good idea I am not married and having a kid. Cuz I think Usher Jennifer Hudson Kapur is an awesome name!

PalmerEldritch said...

yowzers. my brain asplode!

too much information. i think i better go look at the mud wrestling pics again. :)

aimee in little rock said...

Palmer, Lost released a series of 4 jigsaw puzzles last year that contained "spoiler information" that would only make sense when you put together all 4 of them. I bought one, Mike got another one, and Ben got the third. I don't know what Mike or Ben ended up doing with theirs, but I'd finished mine and the backs of the puzzles had glow in the dark messages that were some sort of code you had to decipher.

I hadn't thought about it in a long time, so I went to lostpedia and found the completed messages. Part of it was the definitions for all the acronyms on the blast door map. That's what I was going to discuss, because it's kind of relevant to what's going on now.

PalmerEldritch said...

jordan, i was just about to go track down that pic. crazy that you were posting it at the exact time that i was about to look at it. that's the magic of the island. thanks!

PalmerEldritch said...

aimee, i'm way too lazy to read that all of that wiki entry. cliff notes me, buddy!

Jordan from the 206 said...
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aimee in little rock said...

Here are what the decoded messages said:

- THERE IS NO SICKNESS
- NEED MORE MAC AND CHEESE
- PERIODIC RESUPPLY DROP
- ALVAR HANSO
- WHAT GOOD IS PEANUT BUTTER AND CEREAL WITHOUT MILK
- QUARANTINE IS A HOAX
- DHARMA INITIATIVE HANSO GROUP
- CERBERUS VENT
- EMERGENCY ESCAPE PROTOCOL

Some of the messages had letters that were underlined, identifying the unknown acronyms from the blast door map:

- P.R.D. = Periodic Resupply Drop
- A.H. = Alvar Hanso
- D.I.H.G. = Dharma Init. Hanso Group
- C.V. = Cerberus Vent
- E.E.P. = Emergency Escape Protocol

Go check out the blast door map and a lot more of it will make sense now!

aimee in little rock said...

So if the smoke munster is in fact Cerberus as most of us suspect it is, those locations on the map that identify "CV" are most likely locations that the smoke munster "vents" in and out of around the island.

memphish said...

My favorite parts are the food references. But without the milk that mac and cheese isn't going to be very good either. Maybe it's Stouffer's not Kraft.

Holli

aimee in little rock said...

Blast Door Map: HERE

PalmerEldritch said...

you ladies are the best. thanks. so, are Ben and Company (sounds like a sitcom) using the EEPs to get into the hatches (such as the Pearl)?

aimee in little rock said...

If you look at the map, there are 3 cerberus vents in close proximity to the Swan station. Probably why the 815'ers encounter the smoke munster so often. Most of the vents are on their side of the island.

PalmerEldritch said...

maybe Radzinsky didn't find the CVs on the other parts of the Island? he was pretty much a Swan Hatch based dude.

do we think that the smoke mOnster (my gift to Denass) predates the Others? predates DHARMA? is he a man made construct or a "natural phenomenon?" could he be as old as the Island? could he be the basis for the magic of the Island?

memphish said...

So Smokey could be the reason the Others haven't tried to infiltrate the Losties beach en masse like they did the Tailies beach.

In the OLP DL said that Juliet was lying or at least fudging the truth when it came to Smokey even when she claimed they didn't know what it was just that it didn't like the fence.

Holli

aimee in little rock said...

Given that they only had 108 minutes roundtrip, it would make sense that we don't see as many annotations and identifications from the other end of the island. I would imagine the stuff that has been identified, was done while both Radzinsky & Kelvin were alive. One person could stay behind, while the other person had limitless time to explore.

PalmerEldritch said...

i miss Paolo and Nikki.

if nothing else, they made for some fantastic poo jokes here on the blogspot. :(

PalmerEldritch said...

first minute of last night's The Office
huzzah! thanks, youtube.

Ralph said...

sex, steve martin, terry hatcher.

stephsmith said...

Casey, sorry you didn't get the job. Regardless, you are brilliant and talented. I'm impressed with all these young people I come across in the Lost community who are sophisticated and intellegent beyond their years, just like you. Casey, something even better will come along. I'm sure of it.
palmer, if I had a vote, I'd want John O'Hurley to get it. Not Mario Lopez.

Ralph- said...

Hey folks, ben and i already recorded our "Left Behind" episode. it should be up as soon as i ad in Jimmy's portion of the show. we will be seeing grindhouse tonight. alright. i am off to go edit this masterpiece.

PalmerEldritch said...

ralph, what is that a reference to? my pop culture mojo is failing me. also, are you guys going back on The Price is Right again before Bob's last day?

steph, O'Hurley is the man. but he's got the Family Feud nowadays. howabout Ben "henry gale" Linus as the host of the Price is Right?

"is that your actual bid? $1? a tad presumptuous, don't you think?"

memphish said...

I vote for Ben Linus too. Tom can be the "Come on down" guy. That's what she said. Sex, Steve Martin, Teri Hatcher was from The Office last night.

Holli

aimee in little rock said...

Now THAT would be a worthy host. Ben would take credit for all of the contestants actions, making them believe whatever they did was his idea all along. Then he would have them all marked and killed.

Colin said...

I'm going to reply to a conversation that happened awhile ago.

Holli- In the OLP, I think Damon made a point to say she WASN'T all out lying, just kind of withholding the whole truth. According to how I interpreted it, he went out of his way to describe the difference between what she did and actually lying. (Obviously, he made some semi-comical joke about Carlton's appearance or the fact he wasn't wearing pants.)

And as far as the title "One of Us" goes, anyone can adapt it to support their side of whether they think Juliet is good or bad. However, based on the parallels from Season 2 ("One of Them"), it makes the most sense for Juliet to be on the survivors side, but I could see it going either way.

memphish said...

Colin, I agree that what Juliet was doing was withholding or as DL put it fudging the truth rather than out and out lying. It was interesting though that he said it applied not only to the "I've never seen it" thing, but also to "We don't know what it is." I think the Others, Juliet included, know more than she's revealing once again.

It's impossible at this point to know when and/or if the Others have any ability to tell the truth. Vozzek69 who posts weekly over at DarkUFO thinks the sickness is pathological lying at the Others are all infected with it. It's not much of stretch to buy that.

There's probably some element of the "you can't handle the truth" thing that Patchy said to Kate, Sayid, Locke and Danielle too. Juliet just hasn't thought of a way to explain things in a way Kate would be able to understand.

Holli

Anonymous said...

I turned my TV on at 8 but i missed the Office cold opening too.! Thanks Palmer & Youtube! I thought maybe there hadn't been a cold opening and that we were going to get treated to a Rashomon-style show, which would have been awesome. Seeing the world through the eyes of Kelly, Toby or Creed would be amazing. It was still an intense episode.

andrew.

Colin said...

Holli, I really like that idea, about the survivors not being able to understand. With that idea, why are the Others able to understand it? Is it because they've been on the island for much longer, and the island (or Jacob) has "allowed" them to understand it?

As far as the sickness being pathological lying, that'd actually be really funny. Would Danielle kill her husband just because he's a liar? Or is she lying about everything because she has the sickness?

PalmerEldritch said...

andrew, i too was feverishly hoping for some Rashamon action. an episode of "The Invisible Man" with Eyeliner Man's real-life wife did that. hilarity ensued.

memphish, i knew it's from the office last night but it's got to be a reference to something else. right? usually, i can catch crap like that thanks to my encyclopedic knowledge of completely useless stuff. maybe i need that Six Degrees website that Aimee and someone were talking about the other week.

PalmerEldritch said...

colin, the dude left the toilet seat up. danielle does NOT put up with that.

memphish said...

Palmer, Jim mumbled it to counter Michael's walking out Negotiation Tactic. I just assumed it was 3 of Michael's favorite topics and Jim was using his own tactic, though I can't identify it from Wikipedia despite the Michael Scott endorsement.

Holli

PalmerEldritch said...

glad i'm not the only one who wiki'd negotiation! :)

Anonymous said...

thanks guys for the encouraging words, Im just kinda bummed cause I really wanted the job, oh well

kim, I know what you mean about the experiance

palmer, dice-k did throw 108 pitches, but because it was one of the numbers, it got him 10 strike-outs

- Casey

t-dot kim said...

Happy Easter weekend bloggers. I celebrated by seeing Shooter last night, then stopping at McDonalds for a Cabury Egg McFlurry. (That's the only thing I'd eat off their menu)

Palmer, I am also very greatful that Aimee et al. do most of the research in regards to LOST. In school, I was the same way. "Just give me the Coles notes and I'm good." (Cliff Notes = Coles notes north of the border) I know--we have a different name for everything. It's like we're trying to carve out our own indentity or something *shruggs* ;)

I still believe Juliet is a dirtbag. I just don't trust her lying face!

~K

memphish said...

Kim, did the McFlurry have Juliet's brand on it? If it did, you might want to consider your own purge.

Holli

Jordan from the 206 said...

Palmer, here's the actor linking site that I was referencing the other day.

PalmerEldritch said...

woah woah woah... cadbury egg mcflurry?! i was just at McDonald's (fridays are BurgerDay, damnit) and they had no such thing. rat bastards. i'm jealous, kim.

why all the hating on Juliet, Kim? and does this mean we can expect a Juliet/Kim smackdown in the future? if so, do NOT attack her with a pool stick. that's her specialty.

also, kim, as a Canadian, what were you doing eating somewhere other Tim Horton's?! :)

memphish, re: the purge, i love it. you win the thread.

PalmerEldritch said...

thanks, jordan. you've provided me with hours of avoiding doing any real work. bookmarking... now!

Jordan from the 206 said...

Hey, I gotta question for those of you with the super Lost memories. Regarding Jack and Juliet. Have we ever seen anything where Jules told Jack her back story? What I'm getting at is, do we know for a fact that Jack knows her deal? We do from her flashback, but does Jack? Or is he just cool with her because they have gotten to know each other?

The reason I ask is now with Juliet on the beach everybody is going to be very cold to her. And of course Jack is going to try to vouch for her. Whether or not the beach people know her story will likely lead them to either view her as "one of them" or "one of us".

And yeah, why is it that some of the girlies on here have such venom for Jules? She may be hiding something and not totally up front, but I don't see her character as totally unlikable. In fact, I find her quite likable. To me she is much more likable and sympathetic than Ana Lucia ever was.

Colin said...

Is it just me, or does every woman on this board hate Juliet?

And Kim, what are you doing eating at McDonald's? If you were a ture Canadian, you'd be eating at Tim Horton's. I remember when I was like four and my family went to Canada, I ate there. It was delicious. I suppose they've expanded into the US by now, but there are none where I live.

t-dot kim said...

LOL...I usually don't go to Tim Horton's because I don't drink coffee. I hate it. 90% of Canadians would chop off thier right arm from Tim Horton's coffee. Not me. But I do like Timbits which are the greatest thing ever.

t-dot kim said...

I don't like Juliet because she's a liar. She's like that Medusa spider. She's got Jack all tangled in her web, and Jack has the influence to sway the 815ers opinion of her when they get back on the island. If she is exposed as the liar she is...therefore Jack's reputation for being a level headed, stand-up guy is tarnished.

(Of course, watch the exact opposite happen in next weeks episode)

Colin said...

Wow, Jordan. You beat me by seconds on bringing up the blogspot ladies' hatred of Juliet. She's definately more likable than Ana-Lucia (and much better looking). Juliet has grown on me over the past season. Obviously, we don't know what her overall motivations are, but that makes her character even better.

memphish said...

Jordan, I don't think Jack or basically any of our Losties know anybody's back story. We've seen Juliet tell Jack she's a fertility specialist, she's been there 3+ years and implicitly she wants to go home. Tom says she has a history with Ben. She throws a football like a total girl. That's about all we know for sure.

Kate tried to tell Jack her back story when he killed the Marshal for her, but he stopped her. Jack has the most severe case of curiosity amnesia of any of the Losties.

BTW, I'm listening to Rump Shaker as I type.

Holli

Jordan from the 206 said...

Yeah palmer, that site is pretty cool. Although it takes some of the fun out of the game if you use it to cheat. I like using it to see the most ridiculous connections I can come up with. For example, you can link Mini-Me with Charlie Chaplin in 3 moves:

Verne Troyer was in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001) with Derek Deadman

Derek Deadman was in Funny Money (1982) with Marianne Stone

Marianne Stone was in Countess from Hong Kong, A (1967) with Charles Chaplin

Colin said...

Kim- good comparison with the Medusa spider. And I really don't think Juliet is that big of a liar. At least, not to Jack. Unless I'm forgetting something, she's told Jack the truth from the beginning. At some points, she's refused to answer a question because she didn't want to lie to him. The only time we've seen Juliet lie was with the whole Left Behind situation, which, as far as I'm concerned had a pretty good explanation.

Please, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm sure I'm forgetting a time when she lied.

memphish said...

Colin, Even if Juliet isn't telling literal untruths, she's always tried to act like Jack's friend but in reality has assisted in a plot to kidnap him and his actual friends; consented to the kidnapping of 3 children and however many more adult; and refuses to answer Jack's questions that might explain WTF is really going on with vague things like "it's complicated." Her simpering trust me crap even tho I've done nothing but mess with your head is what drives me over the edge about her.

Holli

Jordan from the 206 said...

Clark Gable to Dennis Rodman in 2 moves:

Clark Gable was in Soldier of Fortune (1955) with James Hong

James Hong was in Coming Attractions (2006) with Dennis Rodman

PalmerEldritch said...

heheheheheh. poor kim mentions food and two of us jerks immediately post about tim horton's. you canadians have quite the reputation.

is kate not a liar somehow? i guess she never said she didn't bang sawyer behind jack's back...

PalmerEldritch said...

oh, and that was 69. sorry, kim. you have to be faster.

/that's what he said? :\

Colin said...

Holli, you're absolutely right. I'm interested to see her flashback next episode so we can find out what motivated her to do things; there may be a perfectly good reason. Regardless, everyone on that island has done some pretty bad things. Sayid was a torturer. Kate was a fugitive and a murderer. Maybe Juliet just wants a second chance, like most of the people on that island. Or maybe she's just a lying whore. I'm pumped for next week.

PalmerEldritch said...

colin, maybe she's a lying whore who wants a second chance. the two aren't mutually exclusive.

memphish said...

Trust me Palmer, that's not what she said.

It doesn't matter if Kate is a liar or not, she's not making claims to be a good person who should be trusted just because when the reality is Jack's been tricked into coming across the island and shot with a dart and tied up and given more drugs and has his blood taken and had his friends lives threatened unless he operated on Ben.

When Kate tricked Jack about the case it did interfere with their relationship. Same as when she followed the men in The Hunting Party. That's why it doesn't make sense that Jack would trust Juliet blindly (St. Lucy) without more than his experience of her actions to go on.

Holli

Holli

Colin said...

Haha Palmer, you are correct. Though if she wanted a second chance...wouldn't she try to stop being a lying whore?

And as far as Tim Horton's is concerned, it's okay. There aren't too many stereotypes about Canadians and that just happens to be one of the few. Aside from that, there's the accent. And the idea that they have no military. Any others? By the way Kim, I hope you're not getting offended. But everyone should list off the typical Canadian stereotypes.

PalmerEldritch said...

Canadians or French Canadians?

Canadians are stereotypically polite and apologetic. And they eat babies.

/might have made that last one up

elias said...

I love Canada. Great memories of living in Toronto in 99.

Anyone been to Turbo on a crazy drum and bass night? I blagged my way in all summer claiming I was with the British music press.

Jordan from the 206 said...
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Jordan from the 206 said...

I like Canada as well. Although living in Seattle, I am mainly versed in British Columbia. Vancouver is awesome.

Geez. First Tyra Banks, now Juliet. Who will be next to divide the blogspot into civil war?

Colin said...

Don't get me wrong. I love me some Canada. And, living in Minnesota, I'm basically two feet away from it.

I want to know what Aimee thinks about Juliet. She may be the voice of reason on the female's hate-Juliet side.

PalmerEldritch said...

Juliet could beat up Tyra Banks

/hiding in my bunker from an angry Kim

t-dot kim said...

grrr... lol, you guys are so funny today.


in case you couldn't tell, I was being sarcastic
~K

Colin said...

Palmer, maybe the thing about Canadians eating babies went a tad bit to far.

Sorry that we're a bunch of ignorant Americans, Kim. Even though Elias is from the UK. But he defended your country.

PalmerEldritch said...

oh, kim knows i was kidding about the baby eating. it's the tyra versus juliet thing that's the problem. :)