Wednesday, April 25, 2007

D.O.C. - Episode Discussion

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memphish said...

First? I still say Jae, but I like the Birkhead guess the best.

Holli

Brennan said...

I'd be watching the repeat of last weeks episode if my ABC affliate wasn't showing Rocky 4. I'm not even joking.

memphish said...

I'm watching the Braves blow a 3-run lead in the 9th, but it's on HD, so it's not as bad as it could be.

Holli

stephsmith said...

Damn it! My BFF just called and spoiled me. I gotta come up with an idea of how to get back at her.
Holli, I will attempt the fish recipe one day for hubby, if I can even find tilapia here in the boonies.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Steph, that sucks. You need to get her back good.

I was at my buddy's house watching the super bowl this year on tape delay. While the game was still close, his neighbor knocked on the door and in front of everybody gave him his money for the bet they had. Totally spoiled the rest of the game.

memphish said...

Steph, I got the fish at Fresh Market. There's one on 280.

Holli

casey_donahue said...

sooo does juliette really not know about sun's affair or is she just playing dumb, I thought it was interestting how she didnt know that seeing as how the they seem to know every other thing about the losties

PalmerEldritch said...

JIZZ ISLAND!

memphish said...

That was the funniest ending ever. I cannot stop laughing. And I now predict with that sperm-boosted power that Sawyer is the father of every Island baby by proximity alone.

Holli

PalmerEldritch said...

SPOILERS!!!

Dr. Eyeliner must have arranged what that last bit of the episode was about to throw people off the trail. Cuz I am not letting the purgatory theory rear it's ugly head again.

SPOILERS!!!

aimee in little rock said...

HOLY CRAP that was an awesome episode. I love it when I'm pissed off that the hour is up right after they finish a big fucking reveal like that!

I was happy to learn the paternity now, and not have it dragged out any longer. They could've abused that mystery, so I'm glad they chose not to.

Juliet is totally a double agent, I don't think any of us were surprised by this!

B. Linus said...

what?!?

aimee in little rock said...

Why wasn't Naomi speaking english the whole time, if she could hear everyone around her speaking it? She's dumb. Was it totally necessary to showcase her linguistic abilities?

PalmerEldritch said...

DHARMA condoms can not come to that beach soon enough.

/pun only mildly intended

memphish said...

With the sperm boosting powers of the Island, if Kate is not pregnant, it proves she's a man.

Holli

apPaullo said...

In the words of the Sugar Hill Gang:

I can bust you out with my super sperm!

Starline said...

Saywer is gonna be Kate's baby daddie. XD

aimee in little rock said...

I'm going to bed so I can let the episode simmer a bit. I usually am way too pumped right after watching it, so I usually don't post until the next morning.

apPaullo said...

In the words of the Sugar Hill Gang:

'I can bust you out with my super sperm!'

PalmerEldritch said...

Naomi is a cunning linguist, Aimee.

I imagine that with that whole freakin' branch through her lung thing that she was a bit out of it and that is why she was speaking in tongues.

Now, what's up with Mikhail?!!

B. Linus said...

that was great. ramblin jack's contest got all screwed up though. i think i could here him screamin no as soon as mikeal(however you spell it) came runnin out of the jungle.

PalmerEldritch said...

well, was Mikky dead or not? is he going all Lazarus on us via the power of Jacob or the Island? or was the blood shooting out of his ears just a symptom of a minor condition?

Colin said...

Alpert better have faked the other crash, because I don't want to deal with fucking alternate timelines.

How do you fake a brain hemorrhage?

B. Linus said...

i'm gonna guess the later palmer. but then, you never freakin know man.

B. Linus said...

we don't exactly know it was a hemmorage though. i said he wasn't dead after that episode. just sayin'. i did.

PalmerEldritch said...

well, no offense to Sayid, but he didn't really check to see if the brain had blown up or whatnot. he just saw what we saw and then threw out the coolest line possible. who knows if it was a cerebral hemmorage. but, damn, when that blood was shooting out of his ears, things were not looking good for Turanga Leela. thought for sure that Mikhail was a goner.

PalmerEldritch said...

colin, we've got two reasons to believe Alpert faked the recovered fuselage.

1) i can't stand the Purgatory theory
2) the alternative timeline theories give us headaches

anyone got a 3? :)

Colin said...

3) It's not.

Good enough for me. That's what she said. What?

memphish said...

So did Alpert load the fake fuselage with fake dead bodies of our alive LOSTies? I wouldn't put it past him after I've seen the way he runs with eyeliner.

Holli

Colin said...

Let me revise my statement. How do you fake blood shooting out of your ears?

PalmerEldritch said...

very carefully? :\

stephsmith said...

Holli, by the time I drove to 280 and back, the fish would be ruined. Thanks anyway.

So, the Mikhail was back from the dead by the healing powers of the island? If the island brought him back from the dead, why didn't it heal the sores on his face? Maybe Ben died and was re-born on the island. Maybe the survivors did die and were re-born on the island. Holy crap. Maybe Jacob planned the crash and covered it up with a fake crash. Who would he be bringing to the island? Just Jack to operate on Ben? Maybe someone more important? Like Locke?

memphish said...

Colin, Ketchup packets hidden in your ears that respond to sound waves?

Holli

Colin said...

When the tide washed away the fuselage, it could've brought it out of the island area, so people could find it. Does fuselage float?

B. Linus said...

i agree albert faked it because:

a) the producers have stated before that it was not purgatory. now sometimes they lie, but i think you can tell when they are lying and when they are being sincere. i believe they were sincere about the the purgatory thing.

b) alternate timelines not only give us veiwers a headache, they pretty much rule out any real chance at rescue don't they.

memphish said...

Steph, It's called a cooler and ice. I even have a cooler that plugs into my car and keeps things cool for the 500 miles to Destin.

I don't know WTF is going on with this show now. People speaking in tongues, none of which I realized even though I know some Spanish and some Italian. Portugese is weird shit though. Then they're dead. Didn't I say a week ago that it was purgatory? I believe I did. And it's nanobots too. I'm just saying.

Holli

memphish said...

realized = recognized in my last post. I blame the beer.

Holli

Colin said...

I don't like the alternative timeline because it's way to fucking insane. I mean, I can buy the smoke monster, and I can buy the healing properties of the island. There are potentially somewhat "reasonable" explanations for those things. But if the island caused them to shift into two separate timelines, the gloves come off. They would never have to offer a reasonable explanation for anything else again.

Ally said...

HOLY CRAP! what an episode! i found myself saying "WHAT?!?!?" through a lot of it. this was definitely full of good revelations.

stephsmith said...

Colin, your reasoning is the most logical.
Holli, you're right. Duh.
Palmer, what does Leela have to do with this other than being voiced by Helen?

trevor mcfur said...

Did she say that all of the survivors were dead, or that no survivors were found? Because the second is ok, no big deal ... the first is, 'What the fuck'???

Colin said...

She said "there were no survivors." Take that as you will.

memphish said...

I have no explanation for the WTF moments of the episode. Why is Patchy alive? Why does parachute girl speak in many languages? And what the heck does she mean they're all dead? It boggles. I've got nothing.

All the little details, that it's Jin's baby, that Juliet is still working for Ben, that it's Sun's fault or his mother's fault that Jin is a mobster, they are all minor details.

Holli

memphish said...

Trevor and Colin, That's why it is important that we know they were reporting there were 324 or whatever the number it was people on board. If Alpert is going to get the appropriate amount of bodies and eyeliner to a fake crash site, we and they needed to know that number.

We never saw Ben give such a directive to Alpert, but it would certainly explain why Ben wouldn't want anyone to leave the Island, if he and Alpert arranged a fake 815. Crap!

Where are Michael and Walt?

Holli

PalmerEldritch said...

steph, my girl Leela has a striking resemblance to Mikhail. Jacob as a robot = Bender

i love how Juliet says "Let me just check to make sure that we covered out tracks." which heavily implies that they attempted to cover their tracks and that she is going in for a second look around to make sure. then she goes downstairs and we see that those two boneheads FORGOT TO CLOSE THE SECRET DOOR.

trevor mcfur said...

Purposely vague...

Colin said...

Palmer, I though that exact same thing. The whole "I hate you" was a nice touch.

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Colin said...

though=thought

trevor mcfur said...

lol, nice catch palmer.

Colin said...

I'm waiting for someone to translate that Italian (I think it was that language, but who the fuck knows) that the parachutist said to Mikhail. Obviously, it wasn't "Thank you for helping me" like Mikhail said it was.

PalmerEldritch said...

Naomi knows a lot of languages. And they seemed to be mostly romance languages so it's not too far fetched. so, if you can speak one latin-based language, it's probably a little easier to learn another. and i think she was too busy with the stick in her lung to keep a consistent language.

also, it serves two purposes for the narrative. it establishes that 'Chutes can speak several languages and it keeps us from getting any useful information until the reveal at the end.

now, what did she tell Mikky? it sure didn't sound like Italian for "thanks for helping me." gratzi or something, right? Ayudar is the verb "To Help" in spanish so the italian should be pretty close. anyone catch what 'Chutes said to Patchy?

Colin said...

She said "there better not be two fucking timelines." That's based on my impeccable knowledge of Italian.

PalmerEldritch said...

colin, we think the same but you type much faster. :)

Babel Fish puts "Thanks for helping me" as "grazie per l'assistenza me" in Italian which is saying "Thanks for assisting me."

trevor mcfur said...

I think she said, "That's a-spicy meat-a-ball."

PalmerEldritch said...

i think she was asking Patchy what his sperm count was. this would prove that she knew she was on her way to JizzIsland.

PalmerEldritch said...

hey! was there any crappy Jakatawyiet stuff? sure didn't seem like it. sweet.

memphish said...

Well I predict the return of jizz to the TLI podcast. How can you not what with the scientific data we're presented with?

Holli

memphish said...

The quadrangle was silent. It existed only in pieces, and the most entertaining piece (and I mean that every possible way) was absent entirely. Jack in a red shirt makes me think he may die, and he sure wasn't much help in the garden. Good thing he's not Palmer's girlfriend's boyfriend.

Holli

casey_donahue said...

in the catagory of questions unanswered:

sooo does juliette really not know about sun's affair or is she just playing dumb, I thought it was interestting how she didnt know that seeing as how the they seem to know every other thing about the losties

PalmerEldritch said...

heheheh. she made me rake last weekend and fifteen minutes in, she came over and said "oh. you don't have to rake that part of the lawn." she's a sweetheart though. :)

one point for Sun though. she actually wanted, demanded, and GOT answers. first person to ever do that on JizzIsland, right?

PalmerEldritch said...

casey, i can see her not knowing since only Jae Lee and daddy knew. and Jae Lee ain't talking.

actually, did anyone else know? hmmm...

is Mister Paik going to DHARMA related?

memphish said...

Sayid was going to before annoying Dr. Stupid Coconut Head butted in 2 weeks ago. When Sun asked all those questions on the beach, Juliet only answered the one we already knew the answer to.

BTW, for all you boys and Kim, that wasn't the right kind of ultrasound for that point in her pregnancy. That's all I'll say on that point.

Holli

PalmerEldritch said...

who else was thinking at several points in the episode, "oh crap. more baby stuff? kim's gunna be pissed. kim hates babies!" :)

DenAss said...

memphish,

not only was it not the right ultrasound unit, but HOW MANY PREGNANT WOMEN HAVE A STOMACH THE SIZE OF MARY KATE OLSEN'S?!

If you think there's a fetus in there, then I've got some real estate you'd probably be interested in.

btw, loved the purgatory and nanobots retro-theory a few posts back.

And isn't Cuseloff starting to give us some legitimate answers this season? hmm? From telling us we'd find out who the father is, to Mikhail not being dead, to Kate not necessarily "choosing" Sawyer. TOLP is actually becoming a somewhat trustable (is that a word?) source.

~DA

DenAss said...

trustworthy. that's what I should have used.

wtf was I thinking, "Trustable"?! Must be the Scotch.

DenAss said...

btw, don't forget to Kablamo the 69. It's almost here.

PalmerEldritch said...

ah-hem... here is the setup.

K said...

Jin so kicked ass... he could take anyone on that island on a one-to-one scenario.

Kirklain said...

Sun was 8weeks pregnant... they could (as they showed in the episode) use an abdominal ultrasound scan... but she should have drunk a liter of water to have given a decent picture. Why do people think this is the wrong scanning device?

DenAss said...

Belated Kablamo for 69. But like George Burns once said, "I prefer 71. It's 69 with 2 more"

I think the reason I figured it was the wrong device was because for all of the ultrasounds I've been present for at that point in a pregnancy, they were internal. Now, I understand that witnessing 2 internal ultrasounds doesn't automatically make me an OB-GYN, but since when did that stop anybody from posting their uninformed opinions on a blogspot?

And yeah, Jin did kick some ass this episode.

Also, if you're trying to "cover your tracks", don't count on Sun to do it for you.

And isn't it interesting how Sun was in a no-win situation this week after last week's episode, Catch-22?

ok, I'm going to bed. you guys stay up way too late for me.

~DA

Brooklyn said...

Awesome Possum episode. A few things I've learned this week:

1) Sun will kick your ass.
2) Jin probably already has (see that kick?! Ah, snap!)
3) Hurley gives the BEST LINE READINGS EVER!
4) Mikhail's alive, and that's weird. I feel a tingly feeling, and I'm not sure if it's healthy.
5) Juliet alreay knew Sun was pregnant. She's playing dumb. WAY dumb. And Sun's a bit occupied to see it. Point for unresolved question?
6) It's definately NOT purgatory, but that was an awesome ending! Two timelines could be possible. Confusing and possibly frustrating? Sure, but this IS "LOST."
7) I love cheese.

NOTE: number 7 had nothing to do with anything, really. It's just a fact.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Whoa.

Aimee is right. I have got to let all of this settle in. I'll get back with thoughts later tonight or tomorrow.

Ralph- said...

Great! probably my favorite Sun/Jin episode ever. I really liked the flashback, i really liked the island story. Cant wait for Next Week. Bring it!

Anonymous said...

Amazing episode!

I loved the real subtle things in this episode like Hurley talking to him mum, or Juliet's "I hate you" and the revelation that Sun trying to save Jin from shame resulted in Jin becoming the henchman for her father which was what almost tore apart their marriage ... tragic and poignant stuff.

I also loved the really subtle WHAT THE HOLY FUCK BATMAN ending as well. That was pretty cool.

-J

MB said...

I've got to get thoughts out now since I probably won't be on here tomorrow much if at all.

Points:
1. Jin is a m-fucking badass!!! I was so into the smackdown on Mikhail! He even Chuck-Norris-roundhoused him and everything. Damn sweet. AND then later he's the only Mr. alert guy in the group and rescues the sat-phone (and gets to take Mikky down again). Jin's the man.

2. I loved Sun's smackdown of Jin's mom - basically 'DO NOT fuck with us bitch!' I know it is not suprising that she would be capable of that - I just thought it was well done (and I was experiencing a decent amount of Jin-Mom hate at that particular moment).

3. I was thinking about Sun and why I have some sympathy for her as a character. I guess it's the ultra-repressive background/culture she came from. I feel like her lying and cheating (at least what we've seen) comes directly from having SO MANY cultural limitations and constraints put on her - who she should fall in love with and marry (NOT the son of a fisherman), and believing that shame is worse than death (which is somewhat how I interpreted her happiness at the end at hearing that the baby is Jin's - I realize it's not that cut and dry though). It just seems that maybe in the way she was brought up, honor is more highly valued than truth - or even life.

4. Holy mother of bodily fluids - how about Mikhail's field medical 'procedure' on parachite girl. JEEEZUZ - winced a lot there.

5. I did like Charlie's "How 'bout if I take your other eye" comment to Patchy. He had a glimmer of a bit more courage or something in this episode (and for some reason it seemed more controlled and confident than shooting Ethan in seas. 1). I'm not sure I can put my finger on it, but he seemed a little less like a follower.

Which reminds me - STEPH - I forgot to respond to your post about the observation your little one made about Charlie being a follower - that blew me away (2000+ miles west even) - quite a little Einstein your rearing.

6. The fact that Juliet was reporting about (and planning to get samples of) Kate's fertility, supports the idea that Ben and Co. did want Sawyer and Kate to 'mate' to get another test subject.

7. Not sure if anyone else corrected this - but earlier Trevor asked whether parachute woman said "there were no survivors" or "they are all dead" - she actually says both ("They were all dead" being the last words before Hurley's "What?")

8. Please - I hope they use at least ONE other piece of music for the previews this season. I still have some affection for Lux Aeterna - and it would be nice not to be completely sick of it.

apPaullo said...

I was on the Cranky Fanatic live show after the broadcast, and I made a prediction: the Others used the sub to tow the wreckage from the beach to another island so that it would be found. Before we go off on a cloning or alternate timeline theory, let's just suppose searchers found wreckage, and based on that declared everyone must be dead. Naomi never said that every body was found, after all...

apPaullo said...

Good morning everyone, by the way.

memphish said...

Good theory Appaullo. But here's my question. Did they put the wreckage on some other Island or what? The most logical explanation for the disappearance of Flight 815 is that it's at the bottom of the Pacific. Why would there be any wreckage at all? And where the heck are Walt and Michael?

I'm still have serious WTF-itis this morning when it comes to Patchy's resurrection and what Naomi said and why Sun would tell Juliet she's a ho-bag.

And the new question of the morning give the FB info is not who is Sun's Baby Daddy, but who is Jin's Mama's Baby Daddy?

Holli

PalmerEldritch said...

holli, jin's mom's baby daddy better not be Paik. ew!

aimee in little rock said...

I was more impressed by this Sun/Jin episode than any of their previous ones. I think it mostly has to do with the development of Sun's character as a badass and a stronger woman compared to the weakling she was in season 1. And Jin's kung-fu. That was just plain awesome. Chuck Norris must have written that scene.

So if the island makes all the jizz "super-jizz", is that like giving the writers carte blanche to impregnate anyone who has sex on the show?

It would've made it interesting for Sawyer; he would've knocked up two chicks. Does this mean that Rose will get pregnant too? I mean, they were on their honeymoon in Australia, so I'm sure they'd be getting busy and stuff.

I don't know what I think about Mikhail yet. Blood from your ears and foam from your mouth is never good under any circumstances. I'm not sure how the hell you can fake something like that.

As far as Flight 815 being found, it doesn't necessarily mean they recovered all the bodies. I don't think she said that, but someone can correct me if she did. It just means "there were no survivors".

They could've planted a dummy aircraft in a deep part of the Pacific Ocean (the deep parts where you can't go down there & get it, but sonars could like, identify it or something) So it would give them the answers that yes, they found the plane, but no survivors.

memphish said...

Jin's roundhouse on Patchy was probably the best moment of LOST ever.

Holli

aimee in little rock said...

But that opens up a whole new can of worms, if they "faked" an 815 recovery/discovery, because:

1. Ben supposedly let Michael & Walt go. How would they explain that?

2. Ben was about to let Jack go home. How was he going to explain that?

Speaking of Harold Perrineau, I saw a trailer for 28 Weeks Later...it looks really cool!

PalmerEldritch said...

aimee, doctor eyeliner could hook Michael and Walt up. you send them out on a crappy little boat (from a tropical island in the middle of nowhere), recover them in your Eyeliner Cruise Ship, take them to the mainland, and set them up with the story that they missed their flight at the last minute and then were so shocked about what happened and so weary to give interviews about their almost dying that they've been laying low for the past few months.

Dr. Eyeliner could make it work.

Or you send them off on the boat without enough gas to get to safety and let them die on the boat over the course of a few weeks. then you go and get your boat back.

either that or they go off to see, Penny's International-Desmond-Patrol finds them in the ocean after the electro-magnetic event, and then hides them from the media glare and from a vengeful Dr. Eyeliner bent on eliminating them.

PalmerEldritch said...

alternately, you just let Michael and Walt get to safety and then call them crazy people posing as Survivors and discredit them. possibly having them sent to a psych ward for the rest of their lives. don't worry, though. dave will be their friend.

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stephsmith said...

Holli, I completely forgot about that other kind of ultrasound. My mind had buried the very unpleasant memories.
Kimberley, I thought of you when during the Jin vs Patchy scene. The roundhouse kick was awesome. I cheered.
Tears during the ultrasound scene. So releaved the daddy is Jin. Sun has two months to live. How long is that in episode time?

apPaullo said...

By the way, now we know that if Superman and Flash had a race, Jin would win.

stephsmith said...

Like half a season?

There was much talk about a possible Kate body double last week. I believe I remember Evi saying in an interview that she doesn't do nude or show her body at all because of her religious beliefs. But what about the scene early on with her bathing on the beach?

aimee in little rock said...

We're about to the end of Season 3, and it's been 90 days, which means we're running at the rate of about 1 month per season on average.

That means that Sun has two more seasons to live, and that ain't bad.

:)

apPaullo said...

I tought that infertile meant zero sperm. And last time I checked, zero times five still equals zero. At least they could have written the line with the number four. No numbers last night!

aimee in little rock said...

BREAKING NEWS STORY:

While sorting through the incident reports from the previous day, I just ran across an aggravated robbery where the suspect was seen driving...

A tan or gold Pontiac Bonneville.

The Others are in Little Rock. Shit.

stephsmith said...

Mr Paik's eyes aren't the same size.
I've always liked Jin's dad. He's precious.
No Sawyer at all.

Hey! Didn't Lindeluce say when you're dead on the island, you're dead?

Jack is pissed!

PalmerEldritch said...

Aimee, that's hilarious.

I'm at a different location for work today where hopefully I won't actually have to do much of anything. AND high school kids are selling Krispy Kreme donuts down the hall from me.

Mmmm... donuts...

apPaullo said...

Let me guess. They robbed somebody of $108.

PalmerEldritch said...

Steph, I guess that means that Patchy didn't die from squirting blood out of his ears. Which is cool for him, I guess. Just enough damage to leave him unconscious and about to die on any other island in the world. But the healing powers of JizzIsland saved his life.

apPaullo said...

What would happen if a SPERM whale swam by the island?

PalmerEldritch said...

Captain Ahab would be impregnated.

apPaullo said...
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aimee in little rock said...

I finally got around to listening to J&J's monday show.

Kim & Aimee are vulgar. Lol. I hope you don't mind.

Explicit tags rule.

aimee in little rock said...

So does this make us the only chicks left standing? I don't even know what else is out there now.

aimee in little rock said...

That's kinda too bad that the Lost Chicks couldn't hold out until the season finale.

PalmerEldritch said...

are you and Kim the only INTERNATIONAL lost podcast now?

t-dot kim said...

Ok, my thoughts...finally some answers. Sun demanded answers and she got "some". I don't believe they are dead--at all. That would be a cop out for the series and don't want to invest any of my time with that storyline.

Jin is awesome. I was cheering like I was at an illegal street fight when he kicked Patchy in the face. JIN, JIN, JIN, JIN!!! With the Satellite Phone, why didn't Patchy try to run--he couldn't hear Jin, Charliem, and Desmond coming after him?

btw, Mikhail!!!! WTF. I was all geared up Danielle to come to their "rescue" and....WHAT!?!?

I think I'm one of the few that has enjoyed the Sun-Jin flaskback/relationship from the beginning. I guess it's because I really want to believe that "bad" things (actions, situations etc) come from good intentions.

Babies *sigh*, I must admit Sun's reaction when seeing her baby for the first time, was sweet. It was a happy moment, for her. I wasn't crying my head off like my friend was beside me. (I really must have a heart of ice). I'm happy it's Jin's baby, but it's sooo bitter sweet. I don't think Sun is going to die. I'm thinking Juliet will save her and her baby.

I also think it's disgusting how "The Others" set up Sawyer and Kate to mate, they must have done similar tests on the animals to see if they could reproduce without harm. Gross. Speaking of disgusting Others, let's go back to Juliet. I still have no sympathy for her. "I hate you" after she stopped recording, Oh PLEASE! I'm playing Cry me a River on the smallest violin I can find.

"Going back to cover our tracks", I was screaming at the TV, SUN!! GO FOLLOW HER, NOW! For some reason, I think Sun doesn't trust her--and may have followed her into the Medial station. (She may have heard me yell loud enough. She heard me when I yelled "Shoot her", on the boat with Colleen)

LOL... glad I'm not the only one who's calling it Jizz Island. priceless.

ok... I don't even know what I'm typing anymore. That was another great episode. We're back on track.

stephsmith said...

Naomi speaks many languages:
"Me estoy muriendo" is Spanish for "I am dying"
"Aiutame sto morendo" is Italian for "Help me I'm dying"
She mutters in Chinese

When Mikhail tells Desmond that Naomi said, "Thank you," (or something along those lines), it sounds like she's speaking Brazilian Portuguese and she's saying,"Eu não estou só," which translates to "I'm not the only one," or "I'm not alone." This is possibly in conjunction with the discovery of the backpack containing the book entitled "Ardil 22" the Portuguese-language version of "Catch 22."

http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2007/04/im-not-alone.html

I've been trying to figure out why Patchy took the radio.

PalmerEldritch said...

patchy is a HAM Radio nerd. he loves communicating with the outside world. and Locke blew up his giant communications array. patchy wants to know what's up with the rest of the world like he was doing in The Flame.

trevor mcfur said...

I don't think that Patchy is back from the dead, I think that he never died. He might have been near-death (maybe that was why the camera focused on him for so long, when we all thought that Kate was gonna lift up the eyepatch?), but was just hanging on enough for the island to work it's voodoo magic on him ... we never did see the Party of Four check his pulse or anything.

Also, Jin may not have had a zero sperm count ... it just may have been low enough that he can't actually impregnate a woman. But now ... supersperm!

The last thing I was wondering ... we now know that the island supercharges sperm. Does it do the same thing to other parts of the body? Is that why the others seem so strong, because the island has made them strong? That would mean that the Losties are superstrong too, but they wouldn't know that, and wouldn't know how to use their new strength, like the others have learned.

memphish said...

Kablamo!

Holli

t-dot kim said...

Isn't Patchy the communications specialist? He worked on the farm with all that equipment, right? I think he took the satellite phone to fix it, or use the part of fix/create anotehr device.

memphish said...

Do you think Patchy's deaf now and just reading lips? Mulit-lingual lip reading is a pretty cool superpower.

Holli

t-dot kim said...

Deaf, and able to lip read with one eye... that's pretty impressive

stephsmith said...

If Kate is pregnant, Sun has to die. For what other reason would Kate be preggers?

stephsmith said...

Naomi told Patchy she wasn't alone. He took the radio to keep the Party of Four from contacting her party.

PalmerEldritch said...

if you're missing a finger and are speaking in sign language, do you have a lisp?

t-dot kim said...

Why does Sun need to die for Kate to be pregnant? The Others set it up for her to sleep with Sawyer hoping she would get pregnant, therefore they could do tests on her. I don't think "they" were hoping another female on the island would get pregnant and they lucked out with Sun

trevor mcfu said...

The radio is new to the island, so it wasn't affected by the sky tuning purple (plus, all of the communications stuff was done blown up by Locke). So Patchy could have used it as a way to re-establish communication with the outside world.

And I can't believe that they're all dead. I mean -- we've SEEN Ana, Boone, etc all die on the island. I'm with everyone who thinks that it's a con of some sort.

trevor mcfur said...

oops mcfu=mcfur :)

aimee in little rock said...

Maybe if Naomi said she wasn't alone, she meant that SHE was pregnant...

Razzle dazzle!

t-dot kim said...

wow... I need more sleep, the 2nd "hoping" in my last comment sould be "expecting". I shouldn't blog just as I'm getting up.

PalmerEldritch said...

kate better hope that those banana leaf johnnies are working.

kim, blogging first thing after you get up is fine. it's always a good time to blogspot.

trevor mcfur said...

Was just thinking ... could Patchy last night have been a manifestation of Smokey?

Kirklain said...

What if McPatchie did die, but as he was left out on the ground, the island resuscitated him, bringing him back to life... Libby, AnnaLucia and Shannon would have met the same fate as Paulo and Nicki, forever to drown in a mound of sand/earth.

PalmerEldritch said...

trevor, that idea did cross my mind. but then would Smokey just have wanted the phone to keep it away from the Party of Four?

maybe Patchy is a... ZOMBIE

Kirklain said...

"...banana leaf johnnies..."

surely they were using some boar intestines...

Zachary said...

CHuck Norris can not visit the island as his ball sack would explode due to the increased sperm count

PalmerEldritch said...

everyone goes hog wild for the boar intestine condoms.

Kirklain said...

Actually how does that work... if the island is making the guys overproduce, they'll be relieving themselves all the time... I'm surprised Kate's still standing after her time with Sawyer unless he was fiddling with himself

aimee in little rock said...

I think if Chuck Norris set foot on the island, the increased sperm count would automatically impregnate everyone there - even the men.

trevor mcfur said...

kirklain--

Or when he came maybe he shot her across the room...

aimee in little rock said...

Kirklain, I'm not a jizzologist, so I don't know how the inner workings of that junk goes. What I understood was that jizz is jizz, but what's inside the jizz (sperm count?) is higher on the island.

PalmerEldritch said...

beautifully said, aimee

Zachary said...

Amiee,

I thought it said "Jizzologist" on your bussiness card? Or do you just play one on TV?

Zach

Kirklain said...

sperm count is higher... doesn't that mean more jizz?

Jordan from the 206 said...

Kim, I'm with you on the "don't wanna hear anything about them all being dead" thinking. Cuz if that really is the case, I am going to be pissed beyond belief. So for now, I don't want to even consider it.

And Kim, you sure are the ice queen when it comes to Juliet. How can her telling Ben that she hates him not show that she's doing things against her own will? I dunno. I guess Juliet is sorta a skater/jater type polarizing character that way.

I don't know what kind of spoilers were out there for this episode. But it seems to me that this was a great ep to not be in on the surprises.

Zachary said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semen

Official definition of jizz

Kirklain said...

Jizzologist... a hands-on job title n'est pas?

apPaullo said...

If Will Smith were on the island, he'd make 'Gettin Jizzy Eith It'

Kirklain said...

The Fresh Prince and Jizzy-Jeff

apPaullo said...

Sorry: 'Gettin Jizzy With It'

PalmerEldritch said...

sperm count is sperm per unit of jizz, right? so, it's got nothing to do with how much jizz there is, but how many Little Soldiers are in each individual serving of jizz.

god. i wish i hadn't typed that.

aimee in little rock said...

Wiki lists "cumshot" as a euphemism, but not jizz. Even TLI isn't that vulgar.

apPaullo said...

Jin should just be renamed Jiz.
Just one letter different.

trevor mcfur said...

That wiki page on jizz is nothing but classy ... gotta love the pic of the recently jacked load lying on the floor.

aimee in little rock said...

I think you have it Palmer. A single serving of jizz isn't increased by the island; just the number of babymaking soldiers in that serving.

Kirklain said...

...and Sun should be Suk?

aimee in little rock said...

Wow. I didn't even see that (I had clicked on the link that took me to the bottom). Dang. I wonder whose jizz that is. And whether he felt proud taking a picture of it, and uploading it to Wikipedia.

aimee in little rock said...

Not that this in any way relates to the topic of jizz, but it's almost lunchtime, and I think I'm hungry. Any legitimate suggestions?

trevor mcfur said...

Sperm is only a small percentage of the total composition of one, umm, load of jizz. The rest is nutrients and protective proteins. So, it stands to reason, that if the absolue number of sperm is increased by a factor of 5, then the amount of nutrient and protective proteins would also need to increase for the sperm to still work properly. Therefore, more sperm = bigger load.

PalmerEldritch said...

by the way, the island made Jin so potent that that wasn't his leg he roundhoused mikhail with.

trevor mcfur said...

"Not that this in any way relates to the topic of jizz, but it's almost lunchtime, and I think I'm hungry. Any legitimate suggestions?"

Aimee, that's just too easy...

Kirklain said...

so maybe the increased amount of sperm per volume means more than one fertilises the egg, giving the fetus weird chromosome numbers which brings on fetal death which happens to impinge on the mother and killing her... which may mean Sun will be ok...???

PalmerEldritch said...

pad thai! lamb curry! pulled pork! mix 'em together and you've got DREAMLUNCH.

Kirklain said...

"by the way, the island made Jin so potent that that wasn't his leg he roundhoused mikhail with."

please don't write stuff like that... almost had me falling off my chair at work!

aimee in little rock said...

Do you mean that because Jin's was low when he got there, he'd be relatively normal on the island, therefore not posing a threat? You may be onto something there.

Kirklain said...

how about a greasy sausage?!

PalmerEldritch said...

the babies are so healthy that they just start smashing their way out of mama like a chest burster.

actually, i think that the increased immune systems of the mother start attacking the baby and the organs start failing leading to increased toxins in the mum's blood stream.

or the babies immune system starts seeing mama as a foreign presence and starts attacking her systems.

man, no wonder Kim dusn't like babies.

Kirklain said...

"Do you mean that because Jin's was low when he got there, he'd be relatively normal on the island, therefore not posing a threat? You may be onto something there."

yeah... that sounds better than the drivel i wrote...

MB said...

We're Joking about Jin's Jizz while Jin's jizz is just gestating into Jin Junior.

- say that ten times fast


I'll be back later in the day - my love to you all

aimee in little rock said...

BBQ sounds good, but I can't go to those places by myself. I'm thinking Arby's.

PalmerEldritch said...

i doubt that the women of the Island are dying of Jizz. cuz they have four months or so before they die. baby must be the offender.

PalmerEldritch said...

aimee, you should just bring "Dave" with you to the BBQ place.

Ralph- said...

If that were the case, Sawyer probably just murdered Kate.

Kirklain said...

Maybe the increased sperm levels is like a cancer, and starts fertilising other mummy organs so we have a liver-fetus, stomach-fetus etc...

and on that note i bid you a good lunch...

PalmerEldritch said...

this is quickly going to devolve into the "only wonder woman could survive sex with superman" debate, isn't it?

oh, i just did devolve it to that point. didn't i?

Kirklain said...

kryptonite condom... or better still a kryptonite banana leaf...

Ralph- said...

i did think of using the term "shotgun" for that sawyer discussion.

I am wondering if this Whole Sun/Juliette thing is going to come into play heavily in the 4th season..... What if Juliette LIED? she tells Sun and Ben that the DOC was on the island, then she says, "hey i helped this pregnant lady who was concieved on the island" then ben lets her go home, only to realize later that juliette knew that the baby was conceived off the island.

Anonymous said...

- i spent the whole episode watching Sun & Juliet hold back smiles during every line delivery, to portray some sort of disgenuous civility or cover their duplicity. It was kind of distracting.

- i really like the fact that Sun knew what Jin did for her father and why but still lived with a level of denial. The fact that she's Meadow Soprano makes her much more interesting.

- Jin kicked ass. i kind of wish he hadn't finished with a roundhouse but he was in the military so i guess he had the training.

- Jin's dad is Christian Shepherd, the man made it his mission to seed every continent.

- i gave in to my cravings and had pizza. i regret it. Is this purgatory?

andrew.

aimee in little rock said...

Wouldn't Juliet be able to figure something like this out, and tell everyone to start using condoms? If they really wanted to test this theory, they'd need to impregnate a woman artificially and limit the sperm count to "normal" levels.

I should totally be a fertility doctor. If only it weren't for all those babies.

Kirklain said...

but there's the added complication that not all sperm are equal... some swim in circles... maybe the island increases the number of supersperm, those that zero onto the egg.

PalmerEldritch said...

yeah, it seems that with all those doctors on the island, they can not have a baby if they want to. but the Others love those cuddly little tykes.

elias said...

Holli - you're right about Michael & Walt. The Others would never let them go back to the outside world - they need every survivor for one reason or another:

- The children to become Others
- The women for fertility research
- Everybody else to do the dirty work or as sacrifices to the island

I hate those damn Others :)

apPaullo said...

That secret lever was so corny. I've seen better setups on Scooby Doo!

memphish said...

I'm just returning from a ladies who lunch thing complete with petite servings of food, and big servings of mimosas, and what do I find? Endless discussion of jizz and a cute little Dharma/Juliet sperm hatch logo courtesy of Aimee. Y'all crack me up.

Back to LOST, do you think anyone back at the beach will notice that Juliet and Sun are missing and/or return together from the jungle?

Holli

Brooklyn said...

Perhaps the Fertility Station was an old set from Scooby Doo. Explains the lever, at least.

We're gonna see Michael. I predict in the season finale or the season 4 premiere. Perhaps he'll bring some castmates from "28 Weeks Later" with him, and KABLAMO! The Zombie Season. Sweet.

aimee in little rock said...

After watching the episode last night, I'm a little confused by what happened with Claire. Alex told her that they were going to kill her after they delivered her baby...why? Isn't the purpose of Juliet's research to find a way to keep the mothers alive because they all die on their own anyway?

Or was Alex just being all teenager-conspiracy crazy, thinking that all the pregnant women disappear, and assumed her evil dad was killing them, and she wasn't aware that they just die.

Brooklyn said...

I think Alex wasn't aware. Plus, if she's Russo's daughter, she's a big looney anyhow.

Jimmy said...

My turn...

Increased Sperm count = Bigger load = Totally incorrect.

8 weeks pregnancy = baby bump = Not always, and barely at all if that!

Mikhail! I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet?

Remember Locke had no really good explanation why he threw Mikhail into the fence. Mikhail says to Locke "Thank You". Minutes later, Locke is revealed to have C4...and knew about the explosives all along.

Were Locke and Mikhail working together? Is Locke an Other (of sorts). Maybe Mikhail did die, but Locke knew he would be resurrected...therefore getting Mikhail out of as tight spot?
Anyway...

memphish said...

Do you think Locke knows as of whatever time the preview occurs in that Patchy is alive? Handsome Jack is hilarious today on that point.

Holli

Brooklyn said...

If Locke is working with Mikhail, Jin needs to kick him next. Dammit all...

apPaullo said...

This is for Aimee:

'Next week on LOST, Juliette takes Sawyer to the Medical Station for shoulder implants.'

apPaullo said...

'And drains the excess fluid from Jack's coconut noggin so he can wear turtlenecks again.'

PalmerEldritch said...

jimmy, 8 weeks without a bump is fine. sun being so bumpless was a good indication that it was Jin's. 90+ days without an inkling of a bump is a bit more incredulous to me (who knows nothing of babies).

PalmerEldritch said...

the 90+ days pregnant meaning if it was pre-Island.

stephsmith said...

Paul, can I say LOL?
Holli, we usually stay near the outlets. Where do y'all stay?
Kimberley, I'll put a call in to TLI and explain myself better about the Sun and Kate thing. I just don't want to sound like I'm all obsessed with the pregnancy issue. It's just one of very few things I have personal experience with.
I had a bar-b-que baked potato and am stuffed. I shouldn't eat anything else today. But I will.

elias said...

LOL at Jin's Chuck Norris trademarked roundhouse kick. it was a reasonably even fight between 2 badasses.

if Mikhail's special ability is resurrection what is Jin's?

memphish said...

Steph, we stay at Silver Dunes across from the Chick-fil-A and one of the 1000 Waffle Houses that grace the Florida Gulf Coast. BTW, my mom went to Tallahassee this week. I hope she was protected. No banana leaf jokes about my mom though Palmer.

Holli

PalmerEldritch said...

holli, i won't poke fun at the "Mom from Tallahassee"

memphish said...

Mom was IN Tallahassee, not FROM Tallahassee, like Aimee and her relationship with Little Rock.

Holli

PalmerEldritch said...

i know but then i can't make a LOST reference. :(

memphish said...

Linking mom back to Aimee in Little Rock is a LOST reference.

Holli

PalmerEldritch said...

w00t! thank goodness.

memphish said...

The more I think about this episode the more I can't stop thinking "WHERE THE HELL ARE WALT AND MICHAEL?"

Bea, not Ben, made the promise that Michael could have the boat and Ben wasn't happy about that arrangement. Was Bea merely under the illusion that you could leave by steering a certain heading? Where are they? Where? Where?

Holli

PalmerEldritch said...

Maybe Michael and Walt were recovered and are being cared for by Penny? Helping her send helicopters over?

DOES WALT HAVE CRAZY POWERS?! What tests was Bea making Walt take?

stephsmith said...

A GHOST STORY

So as MySpace friends and loyal viewers of LOST, I thought I'd give you a little "easter egg" from last weeks episode; a translation of Jin's ghost story. Here's what he said:

"And the girl turned to the man who saved her and said , 'Thank God. I was afraid you were the Hook Man.' And the man looked at the girl with a smile and said, 'Don't worry, little girl. My hook is....STILL IN YOUR FATHER'S HEAD!"

Now you can impress your friends with your sudden knowledge of the Korean language. :)


From DDK's myspace.

trevor mcfur said...

Jimmy, what I should have said was, all of the non-sperm stuff in jizz is there for a reason (nutrition and protection for the sperm); so if the absolute number of sperm increases by 5, wouldn't the amount of all that other stuff have to increase as well in order for the sperm to function properly ... increasing the volume of the jizz?

Hmm, way too much thought went into this posting...

PalmerEldritch said...

steph, my buddy grew up in Korea and was going to translate that for me but his tivo stopped working. :(

aimee in little rock said...

That is so funny. I remember he lifted his arm up with his hand in his sleeve and it reminded me of the urban legend with the guy and the hook hand...lol.

stephsmith said...

Kimberley, I doubt I did a better job explaining myself.

apPaullo said...

Here's a sign of my geekiness:

I'm an Art Director and Senior Designer at a major NY newspaper. Every story in the paper on any given day is given a slug, that is to say an abbreviated title. We're running a story tomorrow about Wal-Mart like stores, and the slug is called BIGBOX. Of course, I had to think about Ben's Magic Box.

There is a funny postscript to this slug anecdote. Last year, we ran a story about men's jewelery makers, and it was given the hilarious slug MANJEWELS. Seems appropriate considering last night's episode. MANJEWELS!

Zachary said...

I though the viscosity of the jizz would just be increased while not necessarily increasing the amount.

Speaking of Korean, does anyone know what Mr. Paik was talking about in his meeting when Sun got there to ask for money?

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