Wednesday, April 04, 2007

3x15 Left Behind - PRE Episode Discussion


Post your theories and predictions for tonights episode here!

*Spoiler Free Zone!*

87 comments:

teej said...

1st, i thank you

teej said...

that, my friends is some sweet revenge that Sawyer is seasoning, presumably Dharma Barbecue Seasoning.

memphish said...

2nd

Too bad we needed a new thread so soon. Don't forget to get your wrestler name back on the last thread for the smackdown tonight.

Holli

memphish said...

Sawyer should come to Memphis is May. (See avatar.)

Holli or for today, Velvet

Obsidianrock said...

I think this is the earliest I've ever posted, maybe I'll be 1st someday

teej said...

Obsidian, i've been first before, back when there only about 4 people posting, and two of them were scott and steve!
So, i'll gallantly give up my first place to you.
Enjoy baby, i'm off for coffee and fags.

PalmerEldritch said...

Memphish, do you mean this Wrestler Name Generator that you posted in the other thread?

/am i good or what?

PalmerEldritch said...

and Aimee, was your wrestler name Mistress something?! ga-row.

We'll just call you Mistress Terminator from now. *cracking of the whip*

memphish said...

Oooh, Palmer, combining your wrestler and porn names. That could make me Velvet Lollipop. Kim still wins though.

Holli

aimee in little rock said...

It looks like there are two entirely different stories going on in this episode. None of the promotional photos included the rumble in the jungle, otherwise I'd have obviously used one of those!

- Mistress Wildcat

PalmerEldritch said...

I know I'm late to the game but combining the first pet that that I have conscious memories of and the street I grew up on would make me...

Lindsey Kelsey? I guess it'd be a Lindsey like Lindsey Buckingham not Lindsay Lohan.

That's a boring porno name. My wrester name (Headhunter Rhino) works pretty well for a porno name though. :)

I think Kim and Aimee need some porno music in the background when they talk about the Rumble in the Jungle this weekend. Especially with Muffin Cocksworth's radio voice...

Casey D said...

so tonight I am bloodstained apollo (which is so bitchin')

and my porn star name would be, by the original rules, Lestat 15th Street. But I would rather go with the street I live on now so it would be

Lestat Huntington

- Casey

why can't I log in?

PalmerEldritch said...

RUMBLE IN THE JUNGLE, BITCHES

PalmerEldritch said...

Kate Austen's Wrestling Name: Jade Sadistica
Juliet Burke's Wrestling Name: The Masked Wildcat

TONIGHT ON LOST ISLAND ONLY
Jade Sadistica versus The Masked Wildcat in a Handcuffed Whipped Topping Justice Match! Watch as these two lovely ladies, handcuffed to each other so they can't escape, cover themselves in DHARMA Whipped Topping for your viewing pleasure and to maximize the punishment dealt out by their vicious moves!

Tonight on ABC at 10! And some Canadian channel around 7 or 8 or something but, eh, I don't really know. Tune in or Tap Out!

Jordan from the 206 said...

I have no idea about what's going on in this ep other than the "rumble" which I am convinced now is going to be 5 seconds long. (sigh)

I like not knowing anything about the eps. Makes them more fun for me. I am only recently spoiler free, so this is new for me. If you aren't yourself, I highly suggest you join the club. All the cool kids are doing it. ;)

If only I can be spoiler free for that damn Heroes. That show spoils itself even worse than Lost.

- Abdullah Leatherface

Tall Guy said...

There's been a lot of complaining from Lost fans, especially about the first six episodes of this season. Hopefully, recent episodes will quieten a lot of this moaning. Personally I didn't see that there was a lot wrong with that first batch of shows. A long narrative serial like this can't really be judged on individual episodes anyway, or even sets of episodes. Doing this is a bit like judging a book from reading only the first six chapters. You have to look at the series as a whole and then judge whether plot, character and themes have all been integrated well.

Now that we're at the halfway point in series three, I defy anyone to tell me that the earlier storylines aren't paying off. OK the episodes set amongst the Others weren't that gripping, but insight into their community and values had to be shown, I suspect, so that we the viewers can begin to understand their motives and connections to the Island.

It'll be interesting to see how it all comes together as things move towards the season's end.

elias said...

My wrestler name is 'Sir King Kong'. He wouldn't come down until he'd got his Knighthood.

Mike Campbell said...

Hey everyone. Just wanted to say Hi from Kansas City. There is a game tonight at 8pm so i will be missing Lost but there is internet at the hotel for 10 cents a minute. I think watching lost is worth about five bucks :)

Haven't been able to read any old posts but the numbers are impressive. Hope everyone is doing well can't wait to hear the podcasts when i get back.

GO SOX!!!

Tall Guy said...

Casey d

You're not the only one whose had problems signing in. I haven't been able to write here for ages. I had to create a new blog in the end, so that I could get out of the Google sign-up circle of hell.

PalmerEldritch said...

any predictions as to what the heck kate's flashback will be about???

ok, so the episode is presumably about Kate finding that Jack is pretending not to be interested in her because he wants to make out with Juliet... so, Kate finds out that her husband is seeing someone else? or that Tom guy from her other flashback gets engaged in a pre-"he dies horribly" flashback?

or maybe she was in an all woman wrestling league in the past?

PalmerEldritch said...

tall guy, that blows. glad to have you guys back.

aimee in little rock said...

The generic ABC description says that besides the jungle rumble, the other island story involves some more conflict on the beach with Sawyer. I don't want to say more for the uber-spoiler frees.

I have no idea what the backflash story is going to be like, other than what we would expect to see in a Kate flashback. Some US Marshal appearance and chasing probably?

The title is Left Behind, so maybe that will have some kind of connection to her back story as well.

t-dot kim said...

Thanks to Ralph, I think a lot of people are living spoiler free. I don't mind watching previews, but he has a good argument for letting the show tell you the story and not some website.

Palmer Happy Birthday! Hope you enjoy your dream fight

Kimberley aka Diamond Animal

memphish said...

I don't know what's happening in Kate's FB, but I'm predicting she'll run. I know, it's a risky out there prediction, but still, I'm saying she runs (into Dharma Whipped Topping maybe?)

From Kate and Juliet's wrestling names I'd have to go with The Masked Wildcat.

Velvet Blondzilla
aka Holli

stephsmith said...

What else can they do in Kate's flashback? Hasn't everything been covered? I can't imagine there being anything left. That doesn't mean anything though. I have no imagination. But I do have a bitchin' wrestling nickname.

Lil' Vendetta

memphish said...

What's left for Kate. I think there still has to be more to why she blew up Wayne. I blew him up 'cause he's my bad daddy has never really worked for me, but I don't have a lot of experience with blowing up dads. The other thing out there is who sent Kate the letter with the money when she returned to Iowa to see her dying mother. Pre-"I Do" Gregg Nations posted that we hadn't met that person yet.

Also, if the yahoos at ABC.com have been releasing the flashbacks in chronological order as advertised then Kate didn't go from Miami straight to Australia. There's a gap from Miami to Iowa. Maybe that's what they'll fill in.

Velvet

Jordan from the 206 said...

I think you guys are way off. The title "Left Behind" is clearly meant to be taken in a much more literal sense. As in Kate's left butt cheek. Like I said, I'm newly spoiler free. So I can't say whether Kate's butt comes into player during her rumble with Julie or her blackflash. But all you who think this is going to be about Kate's dad or the US Marshall are going to be sadly mistaken. My money is on the story being about her secretive past as a jello wrestler.

PalmerEldritch said...

These wrestling names do kick some ass especially the female names. I especially like the names "Lil' Vendetta," "Velvet," and "Diamond Animal."

We need to find a Random LOST Flashback Generator.

Kate grows marijuana on a farm for her son Walt who lives in Australia with her father who stole her kidney during back surgery while her band falls apart due to her mother's car crash induced coma.

PalmerEldritch said...

Jordan, we are on the same wavelength. My theory from a previous thread is that Kate's left behind develops a cramp after the wrestling. Therefore, Juliet must give her a massage.

/bow chokka chokka wow wow

PalmerEldritch said...

oh! and, ladies, thanks for the birthday wishes. i appreciate you being so sweet.

stephsmith said...

Velvet, I accepted Wayne is a pervert as the explanation for What Kate Did.

JonJon said...

Dude I know I'm coming in late to the wrestler generator discussion, but I must say my name is pretty kick ass.

Captain Angel of Death

Anyways I hope to talk more on these blogs, so my name will be recongized more. Later Buckos

memphish said...

Let me try a hand at the Random LOST FB Generator.

On her way to see a psychic Kate enters a karaoke contest and sings "You All Every Buttie" as a joke. Mr. Paik who likes airport bars sees Kate and hires her to deliver a message to his associate Mr. Widmore. Because Kate understands what that means she shoots Mr. Widmore in the knee (after telling him "my name's not really Kisu") and flees to Nigeria where she smuggles herself back to the States in Rose's luggage after removing a large carved giraffe. The title, "Left Behind" actually refers to the giraffe.

Velvet

PalmerEldritch said...

nice, memphish. i approve! keep 'em coming, gang.

aimee in little rock said...

Maybe the US Marshal sent her the letter & money. He falls in love with her at some point in the chase (hence the reason he says to Jack "She got to you, too, huh?" in 1x03).

So obviously Kate "got to him" at some point. She had the balls to call him in 3x06, and ask him to let her go. Who would EVER believe a Federal agent would even consider something like that, unless there was A LOT more to their relationship than meets the eye.

She broke the US Marshal's heart at some point, which is when he decided to start chasing her again with no mercy.

MB said...

First off - Jimmy, that was an incredibly fun segment - laughed hard. You just don't get woman on woman action in prime time like Dynasty anymore.

Steph - Kick-ass icon!

Palmer (going back two threads and, like about 100+ posts i think) - that is f-in sweet that you went to see the TARDIS. It sounds like a serious set-up they had going - I thought it was just a simple display. I vaguely remember when they were carting it around but it either didn't come near me or I just missed it. When was that?

And what excellent wrestling names for Kuliet! I'm going to watch the whole episode with those names in my head.

SAS bloggers rule!

-Captain Leatherface

MB said...

Oh - oops, forgot..

Merry Birthday Mr. Palmer!

t-dot kim said...

I'm honestly not as creative an the lot of you...

However, from the title Left Behind, I think that in Kate's flashback, she and her posse of goons, literally leave her behind during some kind of robbery. She's there to take the fall and The Marshall and her enjoy another round of "cat and mouse".

On the Island, Sawyer gets voted off Exhile Island--and therefore becomes crazy (a la Danielle); or he comes to his senses and realises he doesn't need to be such an asshole all the time

MB said...

Aimee - Really good point about that phone call to the Marshall. i remember thinking 'this is weird', what is up with those two. There's some big thing between them.

memphish said...

I've always been in the Handsome Jack (of Jay and Jack) opinion that something happened between Kate and the Marshal as well. I was hoping like HJ that they were married. Lost points in the Season 3 contest on that one.

Velvet (almost typed Holli)

Jordan from the 206 said...

MB, our wrestler alter-egos must be related. My name is Abdullah Leatherface. I must be your Saudi Arabian cousin or something. The question is however, are we allies or mortal enemies? It seems that whenever two wrestlers are related, they don't seem to get along too well. Hmmmmmm.

And Aimee, that theory of yours is mighty interesting. You may be on to something.

PalmerEldritch said...

jordan, you and MB are of course the Fighting Leatherfaces. cousins and best friends.

until...

you sneak attack him with a chair and declare JIHAD on the Captain.

/more fun to be the bad guy

MB said...

Jordan - perhaps one of us is the...BAD TWIN?..hmmmm (puts finger pensively on lips)

Velvet - I forgot that HJ had said that, LOL. If it's wrong - I must remind those two of that :)

Jimmy said...

I think this is the episode that I know the least about, ever! Not sure how this has come about?

Tall Guy said...

As far as I know, no one's ever commented on the fact that the Marshal, Edward Mars, shares his name with the villain of Raymond Chandler's The Big Sleep. Is this a coincedence or did the writers pick this name because of its hardboiled connections?

Yep! That's another book for you to read, Aimee.

aimee in little rock said...

I remember watching 3x06 and saying to myself "YEAH RIGHT" when Kate calls him on the payphone to ask him to let her go.

PalmerEldritch said...

MB, he's you twin from Saudi Arabia? brilliant!

I like it. it makes just enough sense to work in the world of 80's pro wrestling.

Jordan from the 206 said...

True, Jimmy. There really isn't much known.

That leads me to a couple possible reasons as to why.

1 - There is something that is going to be such a shock and surprise that they've kept it under insane wraps.

2 - The opposite of #1. This episode isn't very good and they didn't want to give any impression of the crappineess.

3 - My favorite theory. The episode in it's entirety is Kate and Juliette rumbling in the jungle.

PalmerEldritch said...

by the way, Desmond's use of "brothah!" reminds me of the Macho Man and the Hulkster.

/Desmond's wrestling name is Cobra Leatherface... the THIRD twin!!

MB said...

Jordan - #3 is a cruel tease!

RE: Cobra Leatherface

I begining to get an image of a Leatherface family - all pro-wrestlers, and "the family TIES that BIND" (cut to the ring - the Captain caught up in the ropes w/Abdullah giving him a full nelson). I've never watched the WWE or anyting but this seems like a cash-crop idea

Jordan from the 206 said...
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Jordan from the 206 said...

I think a good storyline would be if MB and I were arch rival cousins. Me the anti-America Saudi and him Mr. Usa. Then after a long hard fought battle, we'd shake hands and make a truce. I'd pledge my allegience to the USA. After a few months of fighting side by side in the name of freedom and the USA, we would then have big tag team battle vs the South Koreans. At the end of the match just as MB was about to get the win, I'd cost us the match by hitting him from behind with a steel chair. Then I raise the hands of the South Koreans in victory and we'd all stomp the crap out of Mr. America and urinate on his flag, laughing evil belly laughs all the way.

PalmerEldritch said...

It's ironic that the other week's TLI was sub-titled 'The Cocktease' since we'll probably only get a few seconds of catfighting tonight and 'cocktease' is exactly what the ABC promo for tonight's episode is. :(

/still hoping for at least a couple rounds of girlie wrastlin'

memphish said...

Is Desmond THE Cobra Leatherface? I thought that was Billy Dee.

My theory on why Jimmy knows so little about this week in two words--Nikki pole. Nuff said.

Velvet

PalmerEldritch said...

Nikki's on someone's pole?!

memphish said...

Here's a special story for Palmer's birthday.

Velvet

aimee in little rock said...

I have to be honest, I'm not feeling very optimistic about tonight's episode. Kate's flashbacks always sort of seem to be the same.

I hope they pull through with something a little more extravagant than a kate and mouse chase. The only redeeming quality it could have would be the Marshal & Kate connection, or some big reveal like that.

As far as island business is concerned, the Sawyer thing is probably going to be cheesy. Let the guy be an asshole already! You know he can't change his stripes, he's going to be good this episode, then an asshole a few more down the road. It's been back and forth with him since the beginning, and I don't expect that to change.

As for the Kuliet smackdown, it will be cool to see, but like most of us expect, it probably won't be as excited or extended as we hope it will be.

- Mistress Wildcat

PalmerEldritch said...

Mistress Wildcat, whatever happened to that PillowFight episode of TLI you hinted about a few months ago?

/aimee would whup on poor Kim

aimee in little rock said...

Kim has some height over me; she's like an Amazon woman with her 5'10 versus my short stack 5'3 petiteness. I'm sure she could clean my clock.

But I would fight dirty to even the odds.

PalmerEldritch said...

my OFFICIAL kate vs. juliet smackdown prediction:

ah-hem...

The Others have their weekly jamboree folk music concert night. Kate and Jack are re-connecting while Tom sings and plays a bitchin' tune on his custom banjo. suddenly, Juliet approaches jack and starts dancing near him.

juliet: hey, jack.
jack: hi, juliet. i was just talking to kate... uh, about the rest of the plane crash survivors. yeah.

kate puts down her DHARMA beer.

kate : excuse me, bitch? you can't just skank dance your way to the front of the crowd. *POW!!!*

memphish said...

That scene is eerily familiar. Does it involve hearing loss as well?

Holli

PalmerEldritch said...

aimee, i figured that you have the killer instinct needed to win. although, now that i think about it, kim's got the guerrilla warfare tactics down pat from watching E-e-ewoks!

Jordan from the 206 said...

I agree Aimee. The Kate flashbacks do tend to be all a little too same old, same old. I'm hoping this one goes down a different road for a change.

Jordan from the 206 said...

What do you guys think sounds better, Kuliet or Juliate?

Sir King Kong said...

Kuliet sounds better

aimee in little rock said...

Nobody puts Mistress Wildcat in the corner.

aimee in little rock said...

I was actually on the wrasslin team in junior high. I told Andie the embarrassing story of why I quit.

memphish said...

Kuliet.

PalmerEldritch said...

kablamo!

PalmerEldritch said...

we wants embarrassing stories, darnit!

elias said...

I'm intruiged

aimee in little rock said...

It'll probably be just as embarassing to hear as it will be to tell you.

Jordan from the 206 said...

You gotta tell that story Aimee. You can't tease it and leave us in the dark.

I myself like Juliate better. Kuliet reminds me too much like this guy.

elias said...

you should work for the ABC Promo Dept.

aimee in little rock said...

I can give you a one-word summary of the embarassing story: boobs.

I'll figure out another way of explaining it on the commute home, which is....right now!

Jordan from the 206 said...

Commute home? Grrrr. I still have 4 hours of work left! Thanks for rubbing it in.

Colin said...

I vote Kuliet. And Aimee, now you have to tell us that story. You can't just bring it up and then not tell it. That'd be more of a cocktease that the previous TLI and tonights episode COMBINED.

And I know you don't want that...

MB said...

Aimee - If you're not comfortable telling the story, don't let our pressure get...
OH FUCK IT - PLEEEEAAAAAASE

PalmerEldritch said...

b00bies!

Anonymous said...

- i'm livin' spoiler free and tonight's episode is going to be awesome!

- listened to the Battlestar Galactica podcast with the season finale Q&A. Ron Moore pretty much confirmed that they were winging it all season and just pulled some of the story developments out of their asses, but, for some reason, i've softened on how much i hated the finale. I still hate it, and think it was some of the worst television writing i've ever witnessed, but i've got a little morbid curiosity about how they'll pull off final 5 stuff.

- i don't know about Cobra Leatherface, but Leatherneck was a G.I. Joe.
Here's his picture.

- prediction for Kate flashback. I think the marshal will have to make an appearance. Like everyone's said, they kept suggesting a long and involved history between him and Kate. If not romantic, then definitely more tumultuous than calling him long distance. I wouldn't be surprised if this flashback deals with the aftermath of BFF Tom's death too. They could relate dealing with losing Tom with losing Jack.

I remember thinking way back in the beginning of Season 2 that Kate might be a lesbian. She was flirty with Jack & Sawyer but never crossed that line. Her relationship with flashback-Tom was also suggestive but ultimately platonic. I thought it would be a really cool twist on the leading lady if they kept playing up the love interest stuff only to later reveal that she's not interested at all. When Cuseloff made some crack about a gay character i figured i was right. Kate getting "caught in a net" with Sawyer pretty much dispelled all of that though.

That's just a longwinded way of saying that Kooliette "accidently kissing" wouldn't be completely out of left field.

andrew.

memphish said...

Andrew, That would have been a cool twist, but in most of Kate's flashbacks she's been with a guy for ill or for good. She didn't go to college or maybe we'd get the "experimenting" flashback.

Holli

elias said...

Me lobe yoy long tim if you tell the story

Anonymous said...

WTF!!! Aimee couldn't win against Kim

Colin said...

Elias, nice Office reference. And I think the anonymous poster is just Kim in disguise.

aimee in little rock said...

I'm pretty sure you're right, anonymous. But your inclination to say something like that without identifying yourself makes me pretty sure I could beat you.

PalmerEldritch said...

well, if there's this much controversy, we'll just have to hold the competition. :)

what do you say, aimee? kim? international pillow battle?

aimee in little rock said...

I'm not quite sure how that would be physically possible via the interweb.