Tuesday, April 20, 2010

The Last Recruit: Post Episode Discussion



Get off my damn boat.

76 comments:

PalmerEldritch said...

Almost as good as The Last Starfighter.


anyone else hoping the Sonic Fence was still on Jin and Sun were running into each other?

fun episode. Sawyer's back to being a douche but Jack is mildly cool.

and how about that off Island stuff?

Alterna-Ilana looks like she has a complete lack of leprosy. ga-row!

Holder said...

I definitely thought Sawyer was gonna get shot in the chest there at the end of the ep. Speaking of Sawyer, didn't Smokey call him "Sawyer" for the first time (instead of James)? It just stood out for me, I dunno. And I agree Palmer...Sawyer with a plan=dickhead.

"Looks like someone got their voice back." Really?

Mmmm, wet Kate.

I wish I didn't watch the "preview" after the episode was over.

t-dot kim said...

Jin & Sun = Finally....but totally cheapened by Lapedis, AND also by LOST waiting 1.5 seasons to get them back together :P

I liked this episode. I love whenever they do multi-character centric eps!

I wonder if Sun had a "flash" when she saw Locke on the gurney.

Who else busted a gut laughing when Hurley said, "Hey Claire. You look...great."

LOL

JoeSC said...

I loved hearing that Zoe was Widmore's "Number 2." That made me laugh quite a bit. I would agree.

Did anyone thing Claire was actually gonna pull the trigger on the dock? I did.

This episode just felt good.

DenAss said...

Palmer I totally thought the fence was still going to be on there too.

So maybe Ilana isn't dead after all when it's all said and done. Wonder if that means the same thing for Juliet? It seems like everyone is finding their true love in the alternate timeline. Daniel and Charlotte, Hurley and Libby, Sun & Jin, Desmond and Charles, why not James and Juliet?

memphish said...

I totally thought the sonic fence would take out the Sun and Jin reunion.

DenAss I figure everyone, including Juliet, is alive in the X world. I also figure she's David's mother. Anyone else think that David's voice was 3 octaves lower this week than when we first met him?

I had to watch off the DVR. I was out until 8:30, so overall I was entertained, but frankly after then watching Glee I think I forgot most of what happened. What the crap is Widmore's end game? Or for that matter anyone's? Where did Sayid go on Island? I'm still not sure what I'm supposed to be rooting for, so while it kept me going for 42 minutes, I don't think I'll be theorizing all night, much less for the next 2 weeks.

Holli

P.S. American Idol sucks. And it sucks for running over. I'll have to catch the end of Glee online tomorrow.

Brad said...

http://twitpic.com/1h6mox

PalmerEldritch said...

sun definitely seems to know that Locke is bad news.

yeah, i was hoping for claire to pull the trigger. maybe just a small gun shot, ya know?

if everybody is falling in love and all that in the Alterna-verse, why would we want it destroyed in favor of the Regular-verse? oh. because BadShit(tm) will happen in it and the LOSTies will have to choose between timelines and will nobly choose the original one despite their personal misfortune because of a greater good.

pretty much, Jack's gunna fix Alterna-Locke's spine (in two places?). hmmm...

can we bring our favorite Alternates into regular world by the end?

PalmerEldritch said...

those comics are pretty terrific.

JoeSC said...

Holy shit! It just dawned on me...

Did Cindy get blown up in the rocket blast on the beach? I don't know if Andrew could go on living.

Also, although it wasn't of any real importance, I always kinda wondered what happened to the "Elizabeth." I was surprised it was still around. When was the last time we saw that boat? Season 3? "The Glass Ballerina" I think.

Brad said...

I feel bad that Jeff Fahey had to say that line. I felt like we needed a studio audience to ooohh and applaud on that line.

geez louise.

Also, on the subject of which kwon is a candidate may I point out thw amount of threats Jin has survived...

the stigma of being born of a fisherman and a whore
working for Mr. Paik
The Raft
Dharma Sharks
The wrath of the tailies
The Others beach attack (with a mere pistol)
Explosion of the Freighter
Time Travel headaches
1988 crazy Rousseau & co
3 years in the 1970's
A HYDROGEN BOMB EXPLOSION
crazy Claire and her bear trap
being tranq'ed and kidnapped by widmore.


where as Sun, who was born into wealth and luxury...

ran into a tree and got brain damage.
she also was the first person on the island to take up the immortal fight against gingivitis.

Holder said...

Good job on The Smoke Hatch, JohnFromNKY!

Holder said...

er maybe...JonFromNKY? Either way, you get the idea.

Tha Kid said...

Dude. . . I loved the episode except for Locke being Jack's dad.

WTF? Unless he's lying, which would be weird since Claire says she knew Locke was in the form of their dad, it pisses me off.

Didn't we see Jack's dad on Island at the same time Locke existed when Sun was in the Cabin?

Tha Kid said...

Not cabin, Dharma place. Whatever it's called. Maybe he could change shapes back then.

Lost kinda pisses me off.

Tha Kid said...

Also, was I the only person thinking what about Cindy, the kids, etc., when James/Sawyer told Jack to only bring Hurley, Sun, and Frank?

Holder said...

Probably...Cindy and the kids mean about as much as Wallace.

Kyle from Kentucky said...

LOT of people bitching about the episode on darkufo but I fucking loved it.

Kyle from Kentucky said...

I also fucking love this picture >

mb said...

Enjoyed this ep a lot - I like that Jack and Locke are facing off - whether or not Jack ends up being the next Jacob. At least brings the character arcs around to something we've been invested in for a long time.

I thought Jack was toast when Claire was talking to him in the jungle, I thought Kate was toast when she faced off with Claire, I thought Sawyer was toast when the Widmore gave the kill order, and I was WORRIED (not HOPING) that the sonic fence was still on as Jin and Sun embraced (despite the scene providing an emotionally flaccid end to a 1.5 season long separation story arc). This show has definitely trained me to never expect anything normal (even though they went for normal here).

Totally agree that Sun had her Flash on the gurney when she saw Locke.

Brad - love that Jin list of survivals - good one

RE: Locke saying he appeared as Jacks dad - either he's lying, or if that's true then something else must have also appeared as Christian on the freighter with Michael since smokey couldn't get to the freighter as Smokey (and then changed into Christian) right?

Must sleep...

Stephanie said...

I enjoyed the episode a lot. I may even watch it again. Wonder if it's a coincidence that I'm loving the ones with lots of explosions.

Does anyone think Desmond is dead? I don't see Sayid being talked out of it. Then again, if he were dead they would have showed it to us.

Holli, I immediately downloaded Glee so I could watch the apparently amazing final song today. American Idol needs to go.

JonFromNKY said...

Holder, thanks for the kudos. I'm surprised. I wasn't nearly as annoying as I thought I would be.

I don't know about anybody else, but this episode really left me wanting more.

This show is getting better and better. Soon it will be over, and I can die happy.

scrdmnkydst said...

If you think American Idol is bad, then just wait till you get your version of The X Factor. It's basically the same but with more focus on the judges.

oh, i liked this episode. not a lot, but i liked it.

Scott and Steve said...

I watched this ep with a TLI listener, a computer nerd, and a doctor that doesn't watch Lost. So needless to say, I was too distracted to have a Lostgasm.

It did leave me wanting more, and there were bits that were annoying. They waited way too long to reunite Sun & Jin - they spent 2.5 seasons building up to it, and by then I just didn't give a shit anymore. Any sweet reunion moment was ruined by 1) the fear of the sonic fence killing Jin, and 2) The idiotic return of Sun's English, and 3) Frank's lame one-liner.

I was shouting at the television for Claire to shoot Kate. Seriously, I really wanted her gone. And I was very surprised to see Ilana as a lawyer, but in a good way.

There's no such thing as a bad episode of Lost.

aimee is lost said...

my bad. that was me up there; forgot to sign out.

scrdmnkydst said...

if people start remembering their altverse lives when they meet the loved ones on the island, how come Sun and Jin haven't? eh?

mb said...

Aren't the alt-verse people the ones who are having flashes? Has anyone but Desmond had a flash on the island? Maybe I'm having a brain fart and not remembering.

scrdmnkydst said...

meh, i messed up my terminology. i should really stop typing while doing three other things at once.

andrew. said...

- i really enjoyed that episode. Lots happened, everyone got some fun stuff to do, and there were lots of 'oh shit, they might die' moments.

- Locke = Christian Shepherd is another situation where i feel like the writers have changed their minds a lot. It seems like all of the weird contradictory mythology stuff is getting addressed in the most definitive way. 'Were you wearing my Dad as a meat suit?' 'Yes, that was me. Also, the whispers = dead people and i'm the smoke thing. Plus, Richard is totally not aging because Jacob told him not to.'

- Like everyone. I was waiting for Claire to shoot Kate, the Kwon's to get zapped, and Jack to say 'i can't feel my squiggly, squiggly legs'

- re: Cindy and the kids. I wouldn't be surprised if they're dead. This is part of the problem i have with our candidates. They're some selfish ass people. This attempt to escape Locke's camp i can sort of forgive. The others made their choice, and at this point you have to be sick of these stupid log-carriers waiting to be saved all of the time. However, i still have a problem with the whole 'Let's set off a nuke & reset time so that the 6+ of us never had to eat boar or meet that asshole Michael.' I take solace in the fact that Cindy is alive & well, with a better haircut, in the alternate universe. Oh wait, they're going to blow up that universe too. assholes.

aimee is lost said...

I have not heard the expression "squiggly squiggly legs" in ages. Good MYOKOM reference.

Ralph- said...

IN-FUCKING-TENSE!!

I was certain that Kate was going to get shot. I was certain that Desmond was going to get shot.

That episode had me on the edge of my seat. It felt like a pre-finale episode. The next 4 episodes are going to be nuts!

Holder said...

Please copy and paste and go to this link. Nerds rule.

http://funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/157881/FUCKING%20EPIC/

Jimmy said...

I liked it...not intensely but it was very fun. Kate needs to get that peaked cap off, it does her no favors.

I liked that Flocke said he was Christian...I know some people think he is lying but I highly doubt that. I wish Jack had said "WTF are you?" or similar.

Sawyer is a wanker. I'm presuming Jack had a life vest or an airbag in his pack to swim that far with shoes?

That well changes depth, doesn't it? Didn't Flocke throw a torch into it last week and it disappeared???

I thought Kate was going to get shot. I also thought Jin was going to run into the fence...and if that had happened it would go down as the dumbest thing in the shows history, so I am glad that didn't happen. The reunion itself was so, so incredibly meaningless at this point that did anyone seriously care. Their kiss lacked any chemistry at all...like watching Harrison Ford kiss...or Jack for that matter.

Frank gets one line per episode now...I think that's official.

I think it's obvious that when Ilana said "I've been training for this all my life" she was referring to Law School as it explains the way she casually handles sweaty dynamite!

Kyle from Kentucky said...

No way Desmonds dead

Stephanie said...

Oh my God! My cousin just laid this one on me.
What if Jack died in the explosion? Since he's now with Flocke, he could become zombified. Just like his sister.
Thoughts?

Holder said...

I think Jack is alive...but I wouldn't be surprised if we found out that a character who we think is normal is actually Jacob inhabiting his body. And that man is Desmond.

And did anyone go to that site I posted back there? That shit is so cool!

PalmerEldritch said...

good link. was all "wtf?" til the end.

methinks that jack's alive. also that off-island vision christian wasn't Smocke. not sure if he was jacob, drugs, booze, or guilt though.

[ally] said...

anyone else hoping the Sonic Fence was still on Jin and Sun were running into each other? <--- YES!


Who else busted a gut laughing when Hurley said, "Hey Claire. You look...great." <--- ME!


(in the list of jin's feats)
"The wrath of the tailies" <-- i read this as "lack of toiletries" i don't know why.



re: Cindy and the kids. I wouldn't be surprised if they're dead. <--- i hope if/when cindy dies they would offer some kind of something and they wouldn't just write her off like that. ditto for desmond, they're too important to just be killed off screen, even red shirts get a little screen time when they're killed.


squiggly squiggly legs... i miss MYOKOM w/ SAS

[ally] said...

i hadn't thought about off-island christian. it makes sense that on-island christian would be the smoke monster but not off-island, since hello? he can't get off! (the island)

PalmerEldritch said...

"he can't get off!"

no wonder he seems so frustrated.

Kyle from Kentucky said...

it really must be frustrating.

btw that's the greatest jackface of all time

aimee is lost said...

The possibility of Jack having died in the explosion is pretty iffy. If he did, it would explain Flocke saying "you're with me now" at the end of the episode. But that would mean he's gone to the dark side. It would make more sense for him to have died in order for Jacob to "take over", in whatever nutty pseudo-supernatural way that would happen.

andrew. said...

frogger.

Stephanie said...

Pitfall!

scrdmnkydst said...

BOOBIES!

Brad said...

Desmond is the new Jacob.
Jack is the new Man in black.
Sayid is gonna get to be the new Alpert and redeem himself for all the killing. (which is a lot)
And Lime is the new Lemon.
DEAL WITH IT.

Holder said...
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Holder said...

Question: When everyone says "Jack will be the new Jacob/MiB," do you think of it as Jacob using Jack's dead body or do you think of it like the Jack that we know will be taking the place of Jacob/MiB?

I used to think the latter. But now I really think Jacob is inside Desmond. teehee

Brad said...

I think the epic significance of the Island is going to mean that either at the end of the show it must be destroyed or the cycle has to restart. I'm not too big on the whole Jacob or MiB possessing or "getting-up-inside" them. I think the fact that MiB had a mother and claims to have been human means that in all likelihood they just might be the most recent iteration of this cycle, thus the "it only end once" jive. I don't think the black or white side should ever "win" in the end. But if they do, from a purely structural point of view, it should destroy everything. Which is the brilliance of the way they've designed this final season.

mb said...

MAN do I wish I was in L.A. for this (link below) - and Jimmy - I'd pay for your ticket too if I could (and sit next to you and ruin it by repeatedly asking you "you rememeber THAT....oooh you remember THAT?")

LOST LIVE: The Final Celebration

Holder said...

Yay, Kim graduated from grad school!

Kyle from Kentucky said...

The concert in 2007 was in Hawaii and the one before the finale is at UCLA. Why God is Kentucky in no way related to LOST.Oh right Boone did have sex with his half sister.

Holder said...

Early Mr. Friendly was probably from KY.

JonFromNKY said...

Shanon was his step sister, that's more of a Tennessee thing .

賢諭 said...

人是受想像力所支配的。........................................

James said...

There must be some LOST connection to Kentucky??? Surely?

I'm thinking we'll never know what happened when Locke was farming marijuana and had to decide wether or not to shoot the cop? Wasn't that "Further Instructions"?

Tha Kid said...

Hurley likes chicken. -> Mr. Cluck's Chicken Shack -> Kentucky Fried Chicken

andrew. said...

- listening to the Dharmalars/MYOKMwSAS throwback episode. awesome.

- Tha Kid: well mapped degrees of separation. Got me thinking about how LOST should try to take advantage of their link to Kentucky Fried Chicken. Maybe give away Apollo Bars with bucket-tub family troughs.

- also got me thinking about how poorly attempts at merchandising LOST have gone. The in-action figures didn't seem to really take off, and i'm not seeing LOST coloring books at my grocery store. I guess the audience for LOST is a little too sophisticated for plastic baubles.

Stephanie said...

I forgot to mention that I saw Kick Ass last week and there is a Lost shout-out. A character is afraid of dying and not ever seeing the end of Lost. Not that original but I'll take it.

Holder said...

It has to be McLovin. There's no way it's not.

PalmerEldritch said...

another FLARSHback?


hey, did somebody say kim graduated from grad school? kim was in grad school? was that the deluded post of a drug addled holder? if not, congrats to the internet's favorite kim!

Holder said...

Listen to the F'LARShback and it will all become clear.

scrdmnkydst said...

fml, i did not realise that there was no Lost episode next week.

gutted.

Tha Kid said...

PLUS

Kim might've noticed too, BLT, who played the Other who got axed in the chest by Claire, is in the KFC new sandwich thing commercials.

The one where it's like pay 1 dollar more and we'll stab you in the heart.

They turned a 7/11 on Venice into the Qwikee Mart before the Simpson movie premiered.

They should turn a KFC into Mr. Cluck's Chicken (I'm assuming that doesn't actually exist) for the day of the LOST finale.

PalmerEldritch said...

heheheh. weird LOST as Saturday Morning Cartoon pics.

pretty neat.

Brad said...

So my friend that just started watching is almost through season one. I cannot wait until he makes to the third season and hits "Expose".Oh Nikki and Paulo, how I miss your wacky short-lived antics.

Impromptu Haiku:
Nikki and Paulo
Are you smuggling hot diamonds
Or stealing my heart

t-dot kim said...

Holder, I was wondering what you were talking about. I graduated YEARS ago--but alas it all makes sense.

Kid, yes. I noticed BLT. That KFC commercial makes me angry because of all the black dudes screaming about how much they love chicken. LOL.

James said...

There must be some LOST connection to Kentucky??? Surely?

I'm thinking we'll never know what happened when Locke was farming marijuana and had to decide wether or not to shoot the cop? Wasn't that "Further Instructions"?

Chris JC said...

Resisted reading this until seeing the episode and here I am finding all my points already made. Especially the sonic fence one.

So, Ilana... VERDANSKY?

Also - which of Claire's wigs is the worst? I think the island one is still edging out the LA version.

Chris JC said...

Tom Cruise's cousin who played Ethan is FROM Kentucky, if that helps?

He's also deep fried and coated in a secret blend of eleven herbs and spices. Apparently black dudes really love him. (sorry, Kim has shocked me with that info about the advert which I assume is for the Double Down).

JoeSC said...

The FLARSHback was primo. I almost messed myself when I saw it in my iTunes! (SUPER)-belated congratulations to Kim on graduation! I hope the next four years of your life were filled with bacon, helicopters and podcasts!

So I've rewatched the episode twice (once with the wife and once with the neighbor) and I'm still impressed by it. I think the fact that it advanced every major on and off-island story in one episode really worked for me.

I think that's why I've always really enjoyed the non-centric episodes.

Frank's "Looks like someone got their voice back" line is officially one of the worst lines in the history of LOST. It's really made me cringe and roll my eyes each time I've seen it. Who thought that was a good idea? It mad an already cheesy reunion scene borderline unbearable.

Kelly Jo said...

I like LOST. Just got to watch the episode today. Cramazballs.

Stephanie said...

I hear filming wrapped this morning. Let the mourning begin.

JonFromNKY said...

If you "Google" cramazballs, it takes you to only 1 website. Kelly Jo,, care to comment?

Brad said...

oh snap.

Holder said...

I heart nerds.

Oh and Lea Michele is the shiz.