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134 comments:
That photo makes me as sick as Dr. Jack appears to be.
Holli
Is it me or does that phot look like there's something going on in the photo that we can't see........
I bet it's rose. she looks like a dirty bitch.
AWW. Dawn from the British (original and best) Office is in Reaper... how amazing.
Bring me some Hil People Milk!
Holli
Damn, would have bet money that was Juliet in the shower.
They messed with her voice. I recognized the house. I'm thinking this is after the trial for Aaron to have that toy. Otherwise Kate is not following the under 3 rule for toys.
Holli
"Watch it, red!"
"They're not my buddies, friend."
"Well I'm not your friend, guy."
"He's not your guy, buddy."
OMG!
what's up with all these dead people?!?!
why do they keep teasing us with claire being gone?
charlotte speaks korean?!?!?
Did Sawyer call Miles "Donger"? Love it.
"Oh Dong, where is my automoblie?"
well, kate's outfits (and lack thereof) are sure to send internet misfits into a screen capturing fury.
i expect avatars by tomorrow at noon.
I liked Daniel's line to Charlotte about her "very bad attitude".
Good god, Future Kate looks fantastic.
Kate needs a haircut as badly as Sawyer does.
I liked the episode more than I thought I would before it aired. Interesting how they immediately neutralized the Jack on Island drama by showing us him off Island and fine. Of course we knew that, but they did too.
I like how they're dealing with Claire. And bring on more Christian Shephard.
BTW I don't think you should mix your "I don't want to see people who aren't there" meds with alcohol. Can you confirm Trevor?
Holli
Nice to see Bad-Ass Jin make an appearance. Sad to watch the two of them together.
We know now that Sawyer is alive, I think, because Jack said that he chose to stay. I still can't imagine that Claire is alive on the island having given up her bay-bay. I could see Jin choosing to stay if it meant that Sun got off.
Yeah Holli, that's a pretty bad idea. But even worse, there were a few beers plus a bottle of liquor, violating the "beer before liquor never sicker" law.
Jack is really not good in a relationship, is he? But jeez, Kate, you just accepted his proposal a week ago, he flips out for a few days and you're throwing him out?
I really don't have much to day about this episode other than it was creepy, I thought it was Juliet in the shower but I did think the house looked like Kate's, and I cried during the surgery scene. At this point, I can see Sawyer doing something heroic to make sure Aaron gets off the island.
And Joy applying her deodorant in the Crab Shack was the funniest thing tonight, we had some funny tv.
I got that too. That Sawyer is alive, I'm also guessing Jin is alive as well.
What could this promise be? Something to do with Clementine and his baby momma?
All right -- note it down blogspot -- I have something nice to say about Juliet. I am so glad she had Bernard knock out Jack and sent Kate out of the tent. Finally, someone using their own better judgment despite what Jack says. Yeah Juliet. Also, she was smart enough to know the truth about that kiss.
This episode reinforced all the negative Jack things that have been building up over the course of the series. He has to have a woman he saved; bad bedside manner; crazy Jack faces; stranglehold on control; ultimately wanting Kate to choose him over Aaron.
Holli
Was it weird that Dr. Erika NoLastName kept appearing after every time Jack saw Papa Shephard?
I thought that was very strange.
That's what I think Ally. I think Kate was meeting Cassidy to do something for Sawyer with Clementine. I want to see the scene where Sawyer asks her to do that.
Holli
So clearly, Claire knows that Christian is her dad. Does Jack ever find out?
The way he said to Kate, "he's not even related to you!" Made me think he knows.
I agree again Ally. I think Jack knows Aaron is his nephew. I think that's why he didn't want to be around him before he knew Kate wasn't going to jail--he didn't want the responsibility of fathering when he knew he'd be crap at it. The way he threw it in her face (while drinking of course) proved his own point. Did he tinkle the ice in the glass the way Christian did in the kid Jack flashback? I didn't notice.
Holli
That's my big question too Silent Bob. Smokey didn't kill any of them? Only hurt badly 1 of them? Oh come on!
Holli
I thought it was a really good episode. They have a history of following-up 'holy shit!' episodes with pure character-driven episodes that usually seem like a letdown, but I thought that they did a nice job with this one. I think that the FF was a bridge between the earlier Hurley/Kate/Jack flash-fowards from this season, and the season finale FF from last season, and that the next time we see Jack in the future, he'll be crazy and bearded.
Anyone still wondering if Danielle is really dead? Yeeshhhhh.....
One more thing ... did ANY of those Marines die?
Great minds....
So why isn't Jack supposed to raise Aaron, other than that he's a shit dad? Was Jack's big mistake taking Aaron off the Island? Is that the real reason they need to go back--to take Aaron back to Claire?
Holli
I liked the scene in the tent too Holli. It was realistic and logical that Bernard would be the assistant ... I expected them to put Sun in there just because she's a major character. And as soon as the shit went down, she knocked him out, which is exactly what she should have done.
And palmer, tomorrow at noon? You vastly underestimate the power of interweb nerds.
god bless you, internetica. god bless you.
Nice choice Trevor. I just saw that screencap and thought it would fit the bill. Glad you agreed.
So, who watched 30 Rock -- OMG it was soooooo funny! I totally want lighting and a wind machine. And I could not stop laughing when Jack's assistant was telling him goodbye.
Holli
did they only show karl buried? if so, why would miles ask who karl and danielle were?
i hope crazy danielle isn't dead, but i think that's weird.
They showed Danielle first, then Karl. I had a hard time telling if it was actually Danielle, but I'm sure there'll be some caps up soon.
how come the ladies can never just tell jack anything?
"hey, what's your mysterious job, thai girlfriend?"
"i can't say. my job is a mysterious secret. i can't tell you that i tattoo people. i'd rather everyone in the world think i was a pole smoking thai hooker with snausage nipples than know about my horrible secret job as a well-respected tattoo artist."
"hey, kate, why are you acting mysterious and ducking out on your kid?"
"it's a SECRET. i can't tell you that some guy trapped on a mysterious island that we'll never go back to has a *gasp* out of wedlock secret child. you'd never expect that from a prostitute lovin' con-man. no, i'll protect his secret rather than tell you cuz i promised him i'd keep it a secret even though he's on a tropical island. i would rather sacrifice our relationship than trust you with the secret that a horny son of a bitch has a bastard kid."
and of course jack has to tweak out about any and all secrets. if dr. jack shephard were on grey's anatomy, he'd be Dr. McTweaky.
And she can't just say (preferable when he's not loaded), "Look, Sawyer asked me to do something for him. He does't want me to tell you, but I have to do it, I owe it to him." That wouldn't work?
And did anyone else notice Jack getting a big old handful of Kate's butt early on??? I gotta say that I like the 10pm timeslot.
i think everyone noticed jack getting a handful.
I hope that, if nothing else, we don't have to hear about Jaters and Skaters anymore.
jack shacked up with kate and it was apparently non-stop grab-assery.
just flinging her underwear all over the place. and pants are optional when it's time to read a bedtime story.
maybe that was a condition that jack put on helping to raise aaron?
"fine, i'll go see aaron but i want 100 megatons of grade A grab-ass 24 hours a day."
/the great negotiator
yeah i think it's official now. no need to break up into skaters/jaters.
set up...
kate-blamo!
Kablamo for the grab-assery.
Holli
Aargh! Missed it.
Holli
- if Keamy and his boys just got their hair mussed by smokie, what does that say about Ecko? what a baby-man.
- i like how they built the stalker-jack vs. stepping-out wifey back into the plot.
- so was Jack just trying to be in charge of fixing himself or did he not trust Juliet? i kind of kept expecting her to slip a remote controlled sickness bomb where his appendix used to be.
- Jin vs Charlotte was my favorite part of the episode.
- Bring on more Christian Shepherd!
- ooh i forgot to mention that i wached "Rose Red" last week. It's an okay TV-movie version of a Stephen King haunted house story. It was interesting because Anthony Cooper was in it.
Jack don't trust the wimin.
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Rantph! (Rant/Ralph)
i really don't mind the bad reviews on iTunes. Obviously some people don't understand our show. that's totally fine, i don't mind if people don't like us. But seriously, ben and i are not Frat Boys. I can't believe that someone called us Frat Boys. I am notorious for disliking Frat Boys. That was a low blow. There is only one Frat Boy in the history of Mankind that i actually look up to, and that is "The Leader of the Frat Boys"...None other than Michael Bay in the motion picture Mystery Men!!!!
MICHAEL BAY ROCKS!!!!!!!
Not reading yet, as I haven't seen the ep so far, but am sick as a pike that I missed out on Elias Birthday Wishings. E-man - glad the new Cue The Film snared some sex for you - at least that was the implication, just don't listen during the act, lest my braying laugh and cries of "brilliant!" put you off your stroke.
Here, have some nostalgia:
Terrifying Kinder Surprise ad
The Adventure Game with bonus Johnny Ball
Terrahawks theme tune, still amazing
finally
Clearly the inspiration for Sliders, Jamie and the Magic Torch (title sequence longer than most modern kids TV programming).
You are, of course, free to ignore that lot :)
tRalph - F#@K the haters, The Dharmalarmy is strong!
I think it's funny that you always say "I don't mind the bad reviews," and follow up with a comment about a review that seems to be bothering you. Don't even give the time of day. More often than not, people comment about something before they give it a chance, or even understand it. Some people just like leaving bad comments.
we should leave some good reviews for our Dharmalars heroes, eh?
how do we do that?
sorry to cut you off at the 42, holli. i liked your "kablamo for grab-assery."
People are more likely to leave a negative review than a positive one. I will die inside when our podcast gets it's first bad review. I know it's coming eventually. Just as soon as we have more listeners than our close internet friends.
by the way, if kate keeps dressing like that around the house, aaron is gunna be one screwed up little kid.
"Oh, no thanks, I just have a slight Oedipal complex."
/bill s. preston, esquire
Kate should be on MILF Island. I think she could take Deb-or-ah.
Holli
Might be old news,might not
I'm not sure what the hell I'm doing wrong but click the TIME of the post for the link above funny stuff
This is exactly my problem with Jack: Jack raged: ''I'm the one who saved you!'' Does he actually love this woman, or does he view her as some reward for being a good boy? (Courtesy of Doc Jensen)
Holli
c'mon. jack was on prescriptions and three beers and a BOTTLE of wine. his comments may not be indicative of his normal thought processes.
It kind of makes him interesting ... he's obviously the hero of the show, but he really is a head case. Makes him interesting. That final Jack/Kate scene was painful, it's like, "Jack, what are you doing, it doesn't get much better than half-naked and horny Kate, don't blow it..."
Makes him so interesting that I had to say it twice...
Did anyone else get the feeling Evie started the waterworks too early in all her crying scenes? It's like she started crying before she had any reason to.
This my most .... Episode ever?
i think she was crying cuz of the Sawyer/DarkSecret and being forced to go behind Jack's back as much as she was crying cuz she was getting yelled at by Jack.
trevor, half-naked Kate is probably fun but half-naked Kate who might be cheating on you is probably kind of distressing. and the massive amounts of pill and liquor probably didnt help.
Especially when the less hot Sarah already cheated on your ass.
List of Free Comic Books for Free Comic Book Day.
Holli
gyro gearloose!!
All Star Superman is supposed to be really good.
I'm messing around with the Lost soundtrack from Season 1 to make ringtones. I can't use Lock'd Out Again. It would make me cry every time my phone rang. I think I'm going to start with Hollywood and Vines (what I call the trekking music.)
Holli
Crap! Just figured out I can't use the iTunes purchased files. Should have shelled for the CD.
Holli
kate-blamo!
/the kablamo so nice they kablamoed twice!
Have now seen the episode.
Drinky Jack in shadowy chair shot? The subtleties of storytelling in action.
New Iron Man plans -- tomorrow night with Hubby. An actual date. I bought tickets in advance though. I am not getting shut out this weekend.
Holli
Holli- The fix to unlock iTunes purchased files is to burn them to a CD and reimport them from the CD. I'm sure there's another way without wasting a CD but that's the only way that I know of. Found out accidentally, but it works.
burn it as a music CD not the actual files.
Thanks Ally!
Holli
Holli--
An actual date, that's very sweet. Hopefully hubby doesn't get shut out either.
It was sad to see Hurley so screwed up. He was almost catatonic when he was sitting there with Jack.
Yeah Hurley is sad.
So does anyone have any theories as to where Claire is? I'm thinking Christian in Jacob-mode has trapped her in some kind of magical cabin.
New avatar in honour of Jin doing the business.
Clicky for full effect.
I like LOST.
And just in case you haven't seen it, the preview for next week once again gave up WAY too much info, so try to avoid it if you can.
chris, the avatar is a masterpiece. i heartily approve.
holli, a date with a doctor?! ooh la la! have fun.
this weekend is GTA IV and Iron Man for us.
Very nice avatar Chris.
I can't get the wife interested in GTA. Hard to believe she doesn't want to play a game about criminals, drug addicts, hookers, and strip clubs.
- it would be really cool if that was the last we ever saw of Claire. She just wandered off the show. Everyone expects a typical flashback/pity party for the offed character but it would drive the obsessive fans nuts for her to instead become an open ended mystery.
- new polls on Holli's Lost blog.
Thanks for the link Andrew. I haven't made any new ones for last night yet. I was just about to work on that.
Trevor -- I was waiting for an Ally TWSS on the "shut out" comment.
Palmer -- as you saw last night, dating a doctor isn't always a great thing.
Holli
Speaking of dating a doctor, I gotta say that getting the very end of Grey's Anatomy the last 2 weeks is more than enough to make me long for the good old days of Five Minutes of Freddie.
My plans for the evening might involve getting shitfaced and playing GTAIII while pretending it's the new one and that I have a machine that will run it.
Either that I'll steal a car and go looking for unique jumps.
I'm actually grateful for that extra 2 minutes of Grey's so I don't have to worry about missing the end of 30 Rock or the start of LOST. I also love the 1 minute commercial break at the end of the episode.
Now there are new polls up at my blog.
Holli
- Trevor: i had the exact same thoughts last night. It also weirds me out that Desperate Housewives is still on the air.
Ally, you asked about Claire theories. Doc Jensen suggested that Claire did indeed die when her house blew up and didn't realize she was dead. Christian came to tell her and to take her to Jacob's cabin or wherever it is on Island the dead, but not are hanging out.
Holli
That's interesting. It could make sense by the fact that apparently everyone can see the dead. Might also explain why Miles had such an interest in her.
Grey's Anatomy is awful. I can't stand that show.
(I've hidden my identity to protect the innocent)
You don't need to hide. I've only ever watched about 20 minutes of the first episode of Grey's and of course, the last 60 seconds of the last 2 episodes. Hating Grey's doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Holli
she forgot she was dead?
yeah. next theory, please.
:)
I didn't say it was my theory. Doc Jensen comes up with some wacky ones, and Claire's never been the brainy Shephard child. ;p
Holli
I didn't say it was my theory. Doc Jensen comes up with some wacky ones, and Claire's never been the brainy Shephard child. ;p
Holli
That fugly wig is messing with her brain. She's become dumber than any blonde from a blonde joke.
I could see how she's dead, not that she forgot she's dead, but people that are dead have been known to just walk around like they're not dead.
Some people like Grey's Anatomy, I'm not one of those people. I enjoyed the first season and after that I couldn't take it anymore, it was getting too unrealistic.
Holli really wanted to make a point that she posted it twice.
I just sent a beast of an email...
Why does that make me feel well geeky?
Also, Lost was good.
That is all.
Well - I enjoyed that episode a lot more than I expected to (like Trevor? said "They have a history of following-up 'holy shit!' episodes with pure character-driven episodes that usually seem like a letdown, but I thought that they did a nice job with this one."
Two moments that have not been discussed that were among my favorites were Rose saying that Jack is sick for a REASON - (paraphrase) "People don't get sick on this island, they get better". This would seem to be the beginning of the island/universe's supposed 'effort' to get course-correct and get Jack (and all the O6??) back to the island. I add the question of whether all the O6 are 'supposed to go back, b/c it seems like Kate's doing alright - and no mention of her not being the one who is supposed to raise Aaron. This flys in the face of the idea that Claire is the one who must raise Aaron, so I don't get it. Perhaps she is part of the grand scheme or something.
RE: Claire - I actually like that theory. It seems crazy at first, but then you start thinking about all the dead people seen on the island (like Ally said), and the fact that a dead person woke her up and was holding her baby. This coupled with Hurley's comment (which I just dismissed as rambling until now) that maybe the O6 are all dead, and perhaps there's some funky shit going on. Let me be clear though, I AM IN NO WAY SUGGESTING THEY ARE IN PURGATORY - lol. But the island seems to somewhat re-define what it means to be dead in general.
Boy that was rambling - more coffee please....
gillian said...
"They're not my buddies, friend."
"Well I'm not your friend, guy."
"He's not your guy, buddy."
====
That made me laugh WAY too much... mostly because I'm Canadian.
If Christian/Jacob has Claire locked up in a cabin, wouldn't that wig make her the perfect Rapunzel?
Also, I think Jack is a major-league JERK. Give your woman a little slack buddy!
lol, mb. that's great.
i'd forgotten about what rose said about jack. i know i was forgetting something.
some people are also theorizing that juliet did something to jack that she wasn't supposed to, but bernard was there! i would imagine that he would notice if something wasn't right. but maybe i'm giving bernard more credit than he's entitled to.
On an unrelated note...
I just finished watching BSG Season 2! Do I need to watch Season 2.5 and/or other things before watching Season 3?
Thanks!
If Christian/Jacob has Claire locked up in a cabin, wouldn't that wig make her the perfect Rapunzel?
Maybe Christian was nice enough to throw that wig into the fire for us. ;)
alirio, 2.5 is the second half of the second season.
oh. and pill popping, alcohol drinking jack is a jerk. jack's not horribly unreasonable.
and why the hell didnt kate just tell him?
Conan O'Brien discusses GTA IV.
That was weird - I just realized that blogger truncated my first post - here's the rest of what I MEANT to say:
The other moment [I loved] is Jin laying the verbal smackdown and busting Charlotte. Jin is badass! I wonder if Charlotte is going to make a sacrifice (like not getting off the island herself) in order to get Sun off (...Ally that one's for you...).
So, I guess it was indeed curtains for Danielle, which kind of pisses me off, b/c while I know they can still do a flashback on her (which seems odd to do for a dead character), she won't have anymore story in the present which would narratively interact with the backstory - the information we find out will kind of have to be a closed-circuit and standalone, right? Actually I guess it could connect with a Ben flashback of how he got Alex. But I am really disappointed in this choice by the writers - she had a lot to offer as a character I think. I guess this may be one of the few downsides to having only 32 more eps after S4 - not a lot of narrative real-estate.
I think (not based on any spoilers) that that is the last we are going to see of Claire for a long time, though I think she will be back at some point. I think it's cool - we were expecting death, but instead we get a mysterious disappearance - that is so Lost.
kate-blamo?
Hat Trick for Palmer.
Holli
Jin laying and busting Charlotte. Jin is badass! I wonder if Charlotte is going to make a sacrifice (like not getting off herself) in order to get Sun off
and that ladies and gentlemen is what HE said!
So Sawyer isn't dead? Hopefully that means Jin and Claire are alive on the island (Aussie rules!). Amazingly one of 'my' theories came good - Jack gets Hurley-vision and Ghost Dad convinces him to go back to the island. Coupla really creepy moments and gratuitous Kate's butt shots = Lost heaven.
Thanks for the birthday wishes Kim and John and thanks again to everybody else - isn't it somebody else's now?
elias, we're on island time. it's still your birthday for another 31 minutes according to daniel faraday.
Great episode guys! Now I have 100+ posts to catch up on. I didn't watch the show until v. late last night, and avoiding the blog...
I never thought I'd say this--but my heart went out to Juliet this episode. I really felt sad for her. Rose cracked me up! Bernard is awesome!
more American Gladiators on May 12th.
Crush!
Wolf!
More Crush!
Did anyone think of Charlie when Miles was looking down at Claire? He was hearing his hoodie--and he looked eerily like Charlie. Maybe he was talking to Dead Charlie’s ghost and he asked Miles to take care of Claire and Aaron. It could also explain why he didn’t go after her in the night when Christian was rocking Aaron. He speaks to ghosts and knows they mean no harm.
I thought they got rid of all the “extras” in the last episode. Now we have a whole new batch on the beach.
We've got a finale full of people to kill still Kim. We've got to keep some redshirts around. I've heard the Miles/Charlie comparison a fair bit today. So far that hoodie look has been worn by Charlie, Kate in Through the Looking Glass, and now Miles.
Holli
lmao Ally :D
Elias - CONTINUED Happy Birthday!
re: Sawyer - YEAH I meant to mention that as well - it does sound like he's alive, however I suppose he could still have "chosen to stay" but then died.
I could see the scenario where he helps get the O6 out of danger and off the island but then has to stay to face off with Keemy and co. to make sure they DON'T go after the O6. This would then also set up a new dynamic between Kate, Jack and Sawyer where SAWYER is the hero for protecting them so they can escape. Thus Kate feels beholden to honoring the (for now) mysterious request, and Jack doesn't like it but also knows that he's off-island b/c of what Sawyer did.
There - you're welcome Cuselof :)
kim, agreed about the hoodie. definitely made me think of Chuckulicious Pace.
i hope that Miles doesn't talk to any and every character that has been killed off but i like the idea that he can see other people's ghostly visitors.
Oooh - I had not heard the Miles/Charlie thing - that's pretty good.
I don't think Sawyer is alive...the conversation between Jack & Kate was careful not to give it away if he was or not, but I don't think he is dead
Sawyer, dead or alive Kim? You seem to straddle the fence in that last post. I don't see any way they could kill Sawyer without killing their ratings.
Holli
lol...whoops, it's Friday.
I don't think he is alive. I think he is dead.
They're saving the Sawyer death scene for season 6.
Pretty much all of season 6 will revolve around a prolonged death where Sawyer has contracted a venereal disease from previously having slept with an asian prostitute,,, and it turns out IT'S BAI LING!
,,and we've come full cirlce.
Will Sawyer then donate some sort of dying anti-bodies to save Jack from the Bai Ling cooties?
Holli
Anyone going to see Ironman this weekend stay through the credits. I don't know what's after them, I've just heard that there is something there.
Also, Darlton are (is?) going to be on Kimmel tonight.
COME!
FULL!
CIRCLE!
lmao Chris - excellent av
It's looking increasingly like a living cartoon character is going to be named as Mayor of London in a little while.
http://www.boriswatch.com/
brennan - thanks for the heads up (twice) :)
I really dont care about bad reviews. i just dont like the comments that are personal.
also...Michael Bay is AWESOME!
ralph:
Should we be getting worried about how much you like Michael Bay? Seems a little obsessive...
Oh and if Claire is Rapunzel, who on LOST would be Rumplestiltskin?
saw Ironman today - excellent, but sadly didnt sit through the credits. It's got good reviews over here if that's what you're talking about. Lame trailers though - Superhero Movie, Hancock, Hulk.
I was under the impression that Sawyer was still alive but I'm usually wrong about these things.
My man Boris did it Chris - c'mon, the fella read "Greats".
Totally looking forward to IronMan tomorrow. Thanks for the credits heads up. I was reviewing the summer movie offerings and other than Wall-E in June, I think everything I want to see is coming out in May.
As for Rumplestiltskin Alirio leading candidate in my mind would be Ben, but then again, maybe it's Jacob.
Holli
I'm not hugely politically savvy, Elias, but while I do find Boris genuinely entertaining - the concept of him having actual power seems a bit scary.
However, as always it could be far, far worse. Let's see how it goes.
I wonder if he'll at least comb his hair for the swearing in?
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