Wednesday, April 29, 2009

The Variable: Post Episode Discussion

112 comments:

Brad said...

Just checked into my hotel room
Room #108 awesome!!! this is going to be a good night. Time for LOST g2g

Trevor McFur said...

If that asshat killed Desmond...

Guess the milk jug wasn't bulletproof after all.

JoeSC said...

I'm very encouraged by the first 15 mins... Let's hope they keep this momentum up!

t-dot kim said...

Another great wig episode

Trevor McFur said...

His mudder was a mudder?

t-dot kim said...

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH snap!

Widmore is Faraday's Dad, I called it!

Trevor McFur said...

Whoa.

memphish said...

Insert string of obscenities here because our string of obscenities local ABC station spent the last 10 minutes of the episode with a string of obscenities Amber alert all over the string of obscenities screen including the string of obscenities buzzer over the dialogue.

Holli

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Stephanie said...

I give it an overall "meh".
In the scene where Faraday was playing the piano as a young boy, Ellie seemed to have a baby bump.

Fleudiddy said...

Amazing Ep. Answers galor. And young Elouse is female dog

Kyle from Kentucky said...

Amazing episode but still one more question unanswered bout Faraday

Why will Desmond Hume be his constant?

JoeSC said...

This episode was pretty much what I would have expected it to be.

I found the on-island stuff MUCH more interesting than the off-island, which is the exact opposite of what I expected, though... weird...

Regardless, I still really enjoyed the episode as a whole.

Stephanie said...

Here's video of the 100th episode cake.

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JoeSC said...

"Why will Desmond Hume be his constant?"

I'm not sure Kyle... I think that's probably my biggest question right now... What role is Desmond going to play in all of this? We assume he's gonna go back to the island at some point (and I don't think it will be by accident), but I have no clue what those motivating factors are going to be.

Fleudiddy said...

I'm thinking because Desmond helped prove his theory of time travel and he was the only person he knew on the island and in the 90s

memphish said...

I don't have a clue where they're headed now. They've got what 3 hours (events occur in real time) to head off The Incident at the Swan. Radzinsky really should have died; he is a giant douche. Well I can see why Widmore would cheat. Woman who produced a child that looked like Daniel or Penny. I'll take door #2 please.

Holli

Brennan said...

I'm guessing the "What did you see?" commercials were a part of the ARG.

Fleudiddy said...

I wonder if Penny ever got to meet her brother?

t-dot kim said...

I just had an argument with my friend over this episode. Basically a what came first...the chicken or the egg debate. I really liked this episode (except the crazy scene with Daniel and 8 year old Charlotte).

So...did Eloise KNOW she was going to shoot her own son when she sent him back to the island or not? Or was it because the variables (the Oceanic 6 + Faraday, et al) changed?

Discuss.

memphish said...

I think the "What did you see?" things are an ad campaign for FlashForward.

Good question Kim. I'll have to think about it.

Holli

Alirio said...

Daniel survives! He hasn't helped Chang make his Comic Con video yet...

Stephanie said...

Yes, Ellie knew she was sending her son to his death. It was a sacrifice she had to make for the island or something like that.

JoeSC said...

Oh, and fuck Rose and Bernard...

WHERE IS SAYID??? This makes four straight weeks without our fugitive Iraqi. It almost feels like everyone in Dharmaville has already forgotten him...

Fleudiddy said...

Yeah she knew who else would she slap Widmore like that.

JoeSC said...

"I really liked this episode (except the crazy scene with Daniel and 8 year old Charlotte)."

Kim, I think you nailed it. I couldn't put my finger on it at at first, but now I'm realizing that scene really annoyed me for some reason...

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Fleudiddy said...

Heres a crazy thought maybe the radiation from Jughead is why women can no longer have children on the island?

DonW said...

I think Eloise knew she was going to shoot Daniel because of the comment she made to Widmore at the hospital.

Trevor McFur said...

Daniel looked like a pedophile in that scene.

Fleudiddy said...

And why didn't older Ellie tell Daniel "Hey don't run up to the camp like gang busters, I'll be packing heat" or maybe "Hey Daniel when you talk to Richard duck???"

Fleudiddy said...

What a great episode 2 weeks before mother's day

JoeSC said...

Okay... one last thought... does this confirm that Faraday was born on the island as well?

Widmore and Ellie were both on the island on and before '77 and Desmond is obviously older than 27, right?

Assuming he is dead, that means both him and Charlotte essentially came back to the island to die... Miles better start watching his back!

PalmerEldritch said...

alright, with everyone being related, we're treading dangerously close to Heroes territory. this better be it, LOST writers!

alirio is right. daniel's gotta make his comic-con video. either that or they'll just say "uh... he and chang made it off camera."

but maybe Alpert will take Faraday's innocence in the heart of the "temple" while a horrified Ellie Hawkins watches and knows that she'll one day be sending her son back in time to be violated. crazy.

yeah, think Ellie knew she was gunna pop a cap in Faraday when she sent him back in time. she's big on casuality, i guess.

so, Daniel's consciousness goes time-hopping and that's how he fills his journal?

very cool that Daniel's memory loss gets cured by the Island.

hmm... what else?

oh. those time-fuckers better not be able to prevent the plane from crashing. that'd suck.

andrew. said...

- i really enjoyed the episode. It kept up a pretty break-neck pace and layed groundwork for things tying together in a satisfying way.

- yeah, 15 year old Charlotte bugged me too.

- Is Daniel born yet? He's got to be somewhere around the same age as Charlotte. Did Charles & Elloise take Daniel off of the island? Did Alpert think Elloise was off-island?

- So did Daniel fall in love with Charlotte on the freighter trip to the island?

- meh. The Unusuals just jumped the shark for me. 50 minutes into a decent episode, including a focus on the prolonged LOST reference with Harold Perineau, they derailed the whole show with the most unrealistic action by a police ever.

- Radzinski can't die. He has to live long enough to get stuck pushing the button with Kelvin. Don't tell him though because that asshole loves a firefight as it is.

- I'm enjoying this season, but I really feel like the writers are killing themselves trying to make the Swan Station button make sense.

- Hey we got confirmation in-canon that Widmore planted the airplane.

- so Daniel's hair-dryer lamp pushes the consciousness through time, like Desmond. Daniel was testing it on Elloise the mouse, sending the mouse's mind into the future. But what if sending the consciousness to the past was problematic. Daniel eventually thinks he's worked it out, and he tests the lamp on himself. It works because Daniel existed in the past, but when he then tests it on Isabelle, she doesn't exist in the 50's (or whenever he's got the lamp dialed into) and so her consciousness gets stuck. Of course, for any of this stuff to get worked out, Daniel has to continue to be on the show somehow despite getting deaded by his mom.

Alirio said...

People. Have you all forgotten what Island Daniel is on?

He still has work to do...

t-dot kim said...

THANK YOU! That's what I'm saying!! She KNEW she was going to kill her son by sending him back to the island. She didn't know when she shot him that she killed her son in 1977, but in 2007 she knew that by sending him back--he was going to be killed, by herself in 1977. That's why she reacted to Widmore the say she did.

My friend was arguing that Eloise didn't know she was going to kill Faraday in the past or the present. She just knew she was going to kill someone. I'm like "Whaaaaaaaaa!" How so? She said b/c she can see the future. I'm like...Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?" Are we watching the same show?!?!?

DenAss said...

Kim,

Please tell me this conversation wasn't with Aimee.

Mir said...

Great episode, but I didn't care for the variable talk. I am on the whatever happened happened and you can't change the past boat.

The past is their present and anything they do in their present will become their past in 2004. It would not make sense for them to be able to stop the Incident because then how did they get to the past to stop it?

How do you make a person hate a character in 1 episode? See what the Lost writers did with Eloise Hawkins in this one. Wow. What a bitch.

Hawkins' only saving grace is that she was hot as hell in 1954(was that the year?).

I didn't know I liked/cared about Faraday so much. I was genuinely pissed they killed him off.

Faraday still pissed me off with his irrational logic. Why did he need to see Hawkins? Couldn't Richard show him where the bomb was? What was the point of needing to talk to Hawkins? Most of the stuff he's done this season didn't make sense. Why did he send Desmond to find his mom? I don't get it.

Lastly, why don't the Others save him like they saved Young Ben? I guess maybe Ben hadn't died yet.

it wouldn't make sense if they bring him back, unless Richard does it without Eloise finding out.

Mir said...

The logic of Dan's actions are as rational as Charlie locking himself in the room to drown.

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Jordan from the 206 said...

Better Off Ted didn't like having it's finale bumped in favor of Obama.

Jordan from the 206 said...

AMAZING EPISODE! WOW! What happened to my underpants?!

The blog really has had a J&J caller segment feel to it of late. :P

No, seriously though. I liked the ep. It was good LOST. A bit fill in the gaps. But that's how the entire season has been, right?

So Widmore is Daniel's father. Given Danny boy's age and where Eloise was at the time and with who, it was pretty obvious all this time.

Daniel has got to be pretty close in age to Miles, right? So there's a baby Faraday in the hostiles' camp?

Speaking of Lost Babies (we make our dreams come true). Charlotte was what, 6? 7? So she was that much older than Miles? No wonder Rebecca Mader made such a big stink about her age.

And speaking of Charlotte. Ewwwwww. What a gross, creepy scene with young Mask & Faraday. If the emotional Charladay scenes were nauseating when they were both adults. It was 20 times worse when one of them was a little kid.

When Penny went into the hospital room to see Desmond, and the nurse said, "I'll watch your son," I wanted Mrs Hawking to steal Charlie, take him and throw him in a time warp to 1977, thus giving Dez a reason to join up with all his friends.

Anybody notice when Faraday told Jack that any of them could die at any moment, how the camera instantly focused on Kate?

What is going to happen to Sawyer and Juliet? Who btw, did you notice how when Sawyer asked Jules if she still had his back, & her to him likewise, how neither answered? Hmmmmm.

Radsinsky needs a good ass kicking.

Agree with Andrew's comment about the Swan station stuff seeming like overkill. It's as if the writers are constantly banging us over the head, yelling, "LOOK! It all fits together!" For example when Faraday explained it all to Jack/the casual audience. "You know, the place you know as THE HATCH!"

Palmer, Not only is the incestuous stuff a scary step towards the crappy world known as Heroes. But the show has also found itself in Heroes land in that anybody can die, yet you can never say never. Even if we see Danny's eyes gloss over.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Ok, I'm gonna have to be the grinch here for a moment. Sorry, but I am what I am.

Desmond and Penny. I get it. They love each other.

I know it gets a good cry out of Little Rock every time. But how many times do we need a tear-jerking scene with these two crying in each others arms. The first time was touching. But each and every subsequent time, it's losing it for me. It almost feels that the only point to the characters anymore is to have troubles, so they can reconcile or reunite and sob madly together. Color me jaded.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Kate: "We need some guns."

Jack: "Well lucky for us I'm a janitor!"

Uh, what? So the Dharma Initiative keeps their guns in random lockers that some newbie janitor has access to. Yeah, that makes sense.

Herlihy said...

Shit the bed.

This episode was gash.

I hated it all the way through.

Load of balls.

Stephanie said...

Jordan, that's the reason Lindeluse made Jack a janitor. Just for that one scene.

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memphish said...

It was also funny that Jack was the janitor.

Holli

memphish said...

Do you think it could have been the case that Eloise with young Daniel playing the piano had just remembered that she shoots grown-up Daniel the way Desmond remembered meeting Daniel at the Hatch?

Holli

andrew. said...

- ah, but what most people, including the Janitors themselves, are missing is that DHARMA has the utmost respect for Janitors. It's part of their hippy socialist ways that they see no small job, and recognize the dignity of a life of service. That's why their aptitude tests only reward the smartest, most trustworthy and ethical with the job of Janitor. Do you turn the universal keys of your kingdom over to just anyone? nay. The janitors are entrusted with the keys to food closets, gun cabinets and jail cells because they are the princes (and princesses in the unlikely event that a woman would measure up ;) of DHARMA.

- that line 'this nurse will watch your child while you're over here where you can't see him, distracted by your husband grave medical condition' threw me too, and i expected Ms. Hawking to kidnap little Charlie so that she could ruin another kids life.

- i'm back to being annoyed by Juliet. Now every scene with her is littered with reaction shots from Elizabeth Mitchell that say 'i am insanely insecure about my relationship with Sawyer.' I don't blame the actress any more because i like her when she has things to do.

- 'Miles is your fully grown baby boy, back from the future, here to drive you around in a Volkswagon van.'
'is this true?'
'What? naw.'
'okay then, drive some more corpses from the Swan to the Orchid. We need more fertilizer for my Hyacinths are really starting to show.'

Rrb said...

Wonkers it's all Wonkers

Rrb said...

If Dan does everything he said before he is shot and the plane never crashes what happens then they "LAND in LA like nothing ever happened" weird..I'm all around confused.
The hell with this stranger will watch your kid(Bad baby sitting all season). For the first time in my LOST watching life I wanted to hit FF thru a scene. "I'm not to suppose to eat chocolate before dinner:( I hate that scene!

aimee in little rock said...

I take offense to that comment, Jordan...the prolonging of the Des/Pen love story is probably because the writers are going to make it end Greek-style, just like the origin of their characters. In tragedy.

aimee in little rock said...

Even though in the Odyssey their actual characters have a happy ending. (and I don't mean blow job). I'm just referring to the classic Greek-tragedy method.

Rrb said...

And Did he even tell her not to come bact to the island? I htought he said your going to have to leave the island?..And some other crap to about being write? Come to think of it Ms..Hawkins should have probly stole baby Charlie. All she did was tell Penny??Nothing of importance? As for Penny Who is her mother? And then maybe will be done with Guess who is related now? Crap I don't find this Heores'ish theve been doing this cross over stuff from the get get go. Jack/Claire

Rrb said...

I like the other ending..Thank You and Good Day

Will said...

The notion of them landing in LA without anything ever happening really appealing to them makes little sense to me. I mean the whole experience has really changed Jack and some of the others in a good way. Also, couldn't Kate become almost like a Locke character to stop this because wouldn't that mean a really long stint in jail for her.

Btw -what the show is really missing is guys who cry a lot

Jordan from the 206 said...

It's just like
It's just like
It's just like
a mini mall

memphish said...

What would you buy your mom for Mother's Day if you knew in her past, your present she was going to shoot you dead?

Holli

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mb said...

Alright. decent nights sleep helps the blogging brain :)

Eloise totally remembers shooting Dan when she sends him back to the island - you can see it in her expressions - pretty good performance by Ms. Flannigan I thought.

why didn't older Ellie tell Daniel "Hey don't run up to the camp like gang busters, I'll be packing heat'"
Well - that would seem like the thing that most of use would do - lol. But Eloise is probably going by the old "whatever happened happened adage.

maybe Alpert will take Faraday's innocence in the heart of the "temple" while a horrified Ellie Hawkins watches and knows that she'll one day be sending her son back in time to be violated. crazy.

LMFAO - good one P


So that's two surprise half sister/brother relationships now (Jack/Claire and Dan/Penny). Dads on Lost need to keep it in their pants. (this is assuming, probably incorrectly, that Widmore was cheating on Ellie with Penny's Mom)

I know all the talk about the Swan hatch may seem heavy-handed to some, but you just have to write-off stuff like Dan saying "you know...the HATCH" - that's for the audience that doesn't nerderifically blog about it like us. And aside from clunky dialogue, I don't see that the writers are twisting the plot around in non-sensical ways to make the Incident fit in. It seems like a really big plot point that a lot of things revolve around (one of those big plot points that I would submit TPTB had kicking around the writers room since season 2).

TOTALLY thought Ellie was gonna nab little Charlie. and I agree with RRB about bad babysitting/parenting on Lost. Probably b/c I'm a parent, but when things happen like Kate's losing Charlie in the store, leaving him in the room next door to Ms Littleton, Sun running to the island with Ben w/out even checking on Ji Yeon, I keep thinking - do ANY of the writers have kids? These things actually do take me out of the story. But - I'm the first to admit I'm a bit of a worrier when it comes to the kids - perhaps I'm not being realistic.

Finding out about Daniel's memory loss made his freak out in the helicopter before jumping onto the island in "Confirmed Dead" last year make more sense. I always wondered why he was freaking out, but it makes sense now. And then as soon as he landed and Kate and Jack found him - he got more lucid. I think it surprised him a bit, b/c he seems kind of lost and a little confused at first when he lands - I originally just wrote it off to him being a bit unusual, but I think he was getting his bearings after gaining full lucidity back.

Also, I understand that you need to be the grinch you need to be Jordan :) - Desmond and Penny are still awesome to me. I agree that they are setting them up for possible tragedy - thats why he keeps underscoring that he's never going to leave her - because for one reason or another, he's going to leave her (by going back to the island, or dying) :(

"The notion of them landing in LA without anything ever happening really appealing to them makes little sense to me. I mean the whole experience has really changed Jack and some of the others in a good way"

This is exactly why I'm pretty sure (I have read no spoilers about it) the incident is GOING to happen, and 815 is still going to crash. Maybe one of the dilemmas will be that some will want to prevent the crash, and some will see that everything happened "for a reason" and that they don't want to erase everything that happened in the last 5 seasons.

Chris JC said...

I thought that episode was variable.

Chris JC said...

Faraday crying:

At some point, he tests his Lamp Machine which shafts his mind. Part of the mind shafting is the time jumps. One of the time jumps takes him to the island, possibly in a scene we've already seen, experiences the aftermath of the crash, some of the 815 stuff - maybe even Charlotte and retains it somewhere in his memory.

News shows 815 = weepy time.

Jordan from the 206 said...

I agree that the countless Desmond-Penny sob sessions are likely set up for some great tragedy. Each and every time Desmond tells Penny that he is never going to leave her again, you just know he's one step closer to heading back to the island. lol. Still doesn't make it endlessly redundant for those of us who aren't head over heels for the Pesmond relationship. I got no prob with them btw. I just am not one for the constant tear bait. After heartfelt reunion #15, it kinda loses it's impact for me. How many times is it possible that Desmond can spill his guts and make big statements of love to Penny? As Aimee mentioned earlier, it's likely to have a very tragic ending. But it kinda has to at this point, doesn't it? I'm guessing baby Charlie is going to have daddy issues of his own (or a lack there of).

Jordan from the 206 said...

I think it would be highly entertaining if I were to do a podcast with Ms Little Rock where we debated the merits of the whole Desmond-Penny relationship. Whether it's really THAT great.(actually, I know of a certain podcast partner of hers who resides in Northern North America, who rolled her eyes during The Constant. How do I make get that discussion to happen? :P)

I think they are "ok". But beyond that, I just don't get the big love affair. More than anything, over the past season or so, Penny has come off kinda bitchy and cold. Very hard for me to feel too lovey dovey about them as a couple when I have a hard time caring much for one of them. Not to mention the fact that I just never was that about it to begin with. Again, don't get me wrong. I do not dislike them. Just don't get why the couple has struck such an emotional cord with many. For example, their reunion scene in The Constant, meh. It was ok, I guess.

I'm just giving my own personal take here. Not telling anyone they are wrong for helplessly falling for the romance and storyline. We're all wired differently, that's for sure. And all have our own certain things that get us. Myself, hookers with a heart of gold. It's a good thing we don't all have the same reaction to everything. Would make for a very boring world. I just wish it didn't annoy me so much when you guys are wrong. :P

Jordan from the 206 said...

ABC shows, as well as Disney stuff will soon be on Hulu, now that Disney has bought into it. I don't often watch anything on ABC.com, but I've heard their site sucks. So apparently this is a good thing.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Did any of you guys see any of the Lost stuff on Jimmy Kimmel last night? Kimmel is a big fan of the show, so in honor of the 100th ep, they did a bunch of skits and spoofs. Such as this one.

t-dot kim said...

Penny & Desmond...ugh. WE get it.

Juliet, wow, she's kinda territorial, eh? Did you see her reaction when Sawyer called her Freckles. I thought when she said "Ok, we're done here" she was talking not only about their little meeting in her house--but her and Sawyer. I'm glad they're still "together" for the time being.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Yeah, she was territorial. What chick wouldn't be in that situation?

MB, You know our ever ongoing debate about exactly how planned out the show was? And whether they knew that this was were they were going way back in season 1 & 2? Well, I think I win.

Herlihy said...

I really, honestly don't think that they knew where they were going until right before the season 3 finale.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Smart man, Ryan. ;)

Holli was right. The strange ads during Lost last night were for a new show called Flash Forward. Interesting enough, Sonya Walger, who plays Penny on LOST, is going to star in it.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Hmmmm. Actress who plays Penny is going to be in a new show.

Uh oh.

Herlihy said...

Penny has appeared in three episodes this season, for two of those episodes she appeared in 1/2 scenes. hardly a massive commitment. Seeing as she's on another ABC programme, i think it wouldn't be too hard for her to do both gigs.

Herlihy said...

I'm more concerned about another actor/ess.

Chris JC said...

I think, after certain allegations, that I'm worried too.

Sonya Walger was on Terminator and on that HBO show which might have had real sex on but probably didn't so it's not a huge deal esp if on the same network.

At least, that's my understanding based on things that were said around Cane and Fringe re: Carbonell and Reddick.

memphish said...

Happy Birthday Elias!

Holli

PalmerEldritch said...

UK blogspotters, don't forget to create a youtube account and grab your sack!

PalmerEldritch said...

happy birthday, elias!

Chris JC said...

Hooray! We can't watch music videos, but we can get a Sackboy. Good deal...

Happus, Elias. May the First be with you.

Rrb said...

DAMM I can't get an"official wool Sackboy".
Sawyer "Son of a BitcH!

mb said...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ELIAS!

Jordan -
"over the past season or so, Penny has come off kinda bitchy and cold. Very hard for me to feel too lovey dovey about them as a couple when I have a hard time caring much for one of them"

You know - you make a good point here. I have thought Penny a bit cold as well.


and RE: the Mad Libs script-writing - OK.....yeah, but did they do that Mad Libs in 2004 (during/before S.1)? 'Cause then - I win ;P

elias said...

Thank you, peeps - it feels good to be 30 (-2).

Back to the debauchery.

Stephanie said...

Happy Birthday, Elias.
Isn't May the Birthday Month of the Blogspot?

PalmerEldritch said...

FREE COMIC BOOK DAY!!!

well, Saturday anyhow.

mb said...

(tumbleweeds)

Enjoy that weekend blogspotica! :)

And that goes double for Elias!
(a beer will be consumed in Portland in your honor sir)

PalmerEldritch said...

Preview of
Ultimate Wolverine Vs. Hulk #5
available.

Lindelof's been dropping acid or something.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Already read it Palmer. It was ok. Better than the crappy issue 4, at least. And yeah, him talking to the panda was weird. That Lindelof has gotta be on something. Wait a second. Lost is pretty crazy too...

Jordan from the 206 said...

Went and saw Wolverine: Origins. Um, it was ok from a "hey, let's watch crazy superheroes fight" standpoint. But there was some stuff in it that was pretty brutal.

Jordan from the 206 said...

This movie just goes to show why Marvel Studios needs to handle all of it's properties. Where as Iron Man and The Hulk were very true to form. Fox and the people who wrote this movie took a ton of liberties. What they did with Deadpool was terrible IMO.

It's not horrible though. If you try hard enough, it can be sorta enjoyed. But if you want to pick it to bits, watch out. There is one scene involving Wolverine and his new adamantium claws, where the CGI looks like I did it with Microsoft paint.

Jordan from the 206 said...

I'm going to start a Wolverine thread on the forum if anyone who has seen it wants to discuss.

t-dot kim said...

Wolverine was sooooooooooo HOT! Jackman, Renyolds, Kitsch, need I say more...helllllz yeah!

oh...because I saw Wolverine this weekend...TLI will be delayed. Blame it on Hugh Jackman's hotness.

Good day.
~Kim

Kyle from Kentucky said...

microsoft paint - lmao

Ralph- said...

So, when Locke and Sun come back from 2007 to meet up with the rest of the "oceanic folk" it will be much later than '77 and everyone will be already inserted into the "others" camp, with a Younger Ben Linus as their leader. THIS is why Ben Linus has been so insistent on guiding the oceanic survivors along their path this whole time!

Kyle from Kentucky said...

Kim - Hugh Jackman is overrated bigtime hotness wise. Reynolds kicks his ass in the hotness department - this from a 100% heterosexual man. And Juliet is a skanky ho.

PalmerEldritch said...

what? no manlove for the Blob?

Jordan from the 206 said...

Did swine flu get everyone from this blog? Jeez this place has been dead of late.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Palmer, Did you make it to free comic book day? If so, were you able to get the one where Abraham Lincoln & Jesus fight zombies?

Herlihy said...

I keep checking but have nothing of interest to add.

Also, I do feel ill.. headaches, achey joints and dizziness but i doubt it's swine flu.

PalmerEldritch said...

no swine flu here either. but i think i might have undercooked my hamburgers the other day cuz i spent the night trying not to throw up and then slept on and off for about 19 hours on sunday.

free comic book day. took Blackest Night #0, Shatner Presents (cuz its SHATNER), and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #1 (FCBD reprint) cuz Peter Laird was signing them over where I parked my car.

Blackest Night #0 was pretty interesting. them Black Lantern's ought to be interesting.

Jordan from the 206 said...

NBC renews:

Parks & Recreation
Southland
Heroes

The fate of Chuck is still to be determined.

Yay! More Heroes!

Jordan from the 206 said...

New series from NBC:

• "Parenthood," a remake of both the 1989 Ron Howard-directed movie, and the short-lived 1990 NBC series version, this time starring Peter Krause, Maura Tierney, Erika Christensen and Dax Shepard as four adult siblings in different stages of having their own families, with Craig T. Nelson and Bonnie Bedelia as their own parents. It's being written by "Friday Night Lights" showrunner Jason Katims.

• "Trauma," a San Francisco-based drama about paramedics, starring Derek Luke and Cliff Curtis, and directed by Peter Berg, also from "Friday Night Lights."

• "Mercy," a hospital drama that makes the nurses into the main characters.

• "100 Question," a traditional multi-camera comedy (i.e., taped in front of a live studio audience) about a woman (Sophie Winkleman) trying to figure out why all her past romantic relationships have failed.

• "Community," a comedy starring Joel McHale (from "The Soup" on E!) and Chevy Chase as reluctant community college students who form a study group.

• "Day One," from former "Heroes" producer Jesse Alexander, about the residents of a Los Angeles apartment complex banding together after what appears to be an alien invasion.

andrew. said...

- i'm glad that they're renewing Parks & Recreations. It's not good yet, but definitely seems like the sort of show that could get good when the writers & Poehler figure out who her character really is. + as i've mentioned, i've got a thing for Rashida Jones and the way she tries her hardest even when her character has nothing to do in a scene.

- i watched the last 3 episodes of Pushing Daisies. Fans of the show will enjoy them as they're really just 3 more episodes, whodunits and all. maybe i'll post about them on the MYOKM board.

- I don't remember anything about the next-week-on-LOST, for some reason i'm guessing that it's going to be Jack centric. I also get this nagging feeling that his granddad is going to make a comeback.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Yeah. It's got potential. Both The Office and 30 Rock weren't all that when they first started. Both shows needed some time to find their comedic voice and figure out what works and what doesn't. And even in the first couple so-so episodes, P&R is miles beyond that wretched Kath & Kim.

PalmerEldritch said...

new tv show with Joel McHale? interesting!

new tv show with Chevy Chase? uh-oh...or is he still funny with good material to work with?



new show produced by Jesse Alexander? interesting!new show produced by Jesse Alexander? uh-oh..."your challenge for LOSTnesday!

go back to 1977 (metaphorically) and find some "pepsi throwback." get some regular corn syruppy pepsi and have yourself a LOSTnesday Pepsi Taste Test Challenge!

andrew. said...

kablooey!

Stephanie said...

I wish Pepsi Throwback came in caffeine-free.
You single-handledly make Heroes bad and what does NBC do? They give you your own show. Who's running that network?
Community looks like it will be my new favorite show.
Parks and Recreation is horrible.
I just burned my arm. It hurts.

PalmerEldritch said...

sorry about your arm! get yourself to the Island.


i dunno if we can say that Jesse Alexander "single-handedly" destroyed Heroes. if you can lay the blame at one person's feet, it might have to be the showrunner who, presumably, has final say on everything.

but, yeah, i'm not expecting anything any better than most network shows from Day One.

Herlihy said...

I dunno... Day One and Flash Forward might not be too bad... Oh and there's the V thing as well...

PalmerEldritch said...

nuThread!