Tuesday, March 30, 2010

The Package: Post Episode Discussion

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126 comments:

andrew. said...

i watched it!
it was good!
meat & potatos Lost

memphish said...

Didn't knock my socks off, but I truly enjoyed the repeat of the Jin/Mikhail throwdown and the fact that Jin shot out Mikhail's eye. Awesome touch.

I'm also intrigued to see if Sun can die in the X-world.

There's still a whole lot of hide the ball going on back in Island world, but it was ok. So did Locke lie to Claire about Kate being on the wall, or does he not know she's a candidate? Still holding out that there's something for Kate to do.

Holli

memphish said...

Totally forgot about the bacon reference by Frank. Loved it and immediately thought of the blogspot.

Holli

Kelly Jo said...

Totally called the end. Still really liked the episode.

morgan said...

Yay, Desmond!

I Like LOST!

t-dot kim said...

Someone on the LOST writing staff reads our posts on the blogspot.

Bacon.

andrew. said...

I don't know if i understood the cold opening with Shannon Doherty whining about her daddy issues. Have we seen her character before?

Stephanie said...

Boob stand-in for Sun. Jin's rack is as big as Sun's.
The Smiths laughed when Locke said the people he killed were just confused.
Why was it important that we visited Room 23 again?
Is it going to be touching when Jack gets everyone on the airplane and therefor off the island when we've basically seen that before?
Does Damon and Carlton realize half the audience is rooting for Claire to kill Kate?
Sawyer has no butt.

Kelly Jo said...

I know that was weird. Did anyone else think that Sayid looked like the Lockness monster when he was swimming towards the dock?

t-dot kim said...

Stephanie, I thought the same thing about Sun's boobs, lol (hahahah, perv)--but I'm sure they're real

I cracked up so hard at Sun running into the tree AND when Sayid emerged from the water in the last scene. I was shocked and laughing and gasping in a matter of 3 seconds.

JoeSC said...

Really good episode. Nothing mind-blowing, but classic LOST.

I was laughing so hard when Mikhail was shot in the eye that I almost missed the fact that Sun was shot.

Nice to see Room 23 again. I got real excited when I saw the chair and all the speakers.

Locke is starting to crack. I love watching the anger slowly build.

The last scene with Sayid by the dock was just awesome. He's not getting much work, but Naveen is playing the soulless monster role pretty well.

Steph, I agree that Yun-Jin must have had a stand-in rack for this episode, but it's still up there with the greatest gratuitous boob shots in LOST history!

PalmerEldritch said...

oh, you statue naysayers. know you nothing of giant statue construction in ancient times?

not solid rock past the feet.

also, there's a smoke monster. a smoke monster. stop worrying about the statue.

fun episode. not super great but fun.

ALT-JIN'S ALT-BALLS WORK!!!!

patchy getting shot in the eye had to happen. was waiting for that. :)

DESMOND! excellent. so, The Package referred to, as MB put it, Jin's junk since he knocked up Sun AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND the return of Desmond, owner of Aimee's dream junk.

DenAss said...

My damn DVR stopped recording right when Locke was walking up to Ford and Austin near the end. Can someone give me the info on what I missed please?

Stephanie said...

I don't mean Sun's flat-chested, just that Jin's been working out hard.

andrew. said...

Denass,
ilana was busy cleaning her gun in the most unsafe manner possible, and she accidently shot Jack in the face. they played the 'life & death' theme and Hurley scratched his name off of the lighthouse wheel while crying. it was rull sad.

In truth, i think it ended with Tina Fey dragging Desmond out of the sub, and Sayid, in navy seal mode, spying for devilocke, saw it.

Brad said...

As far as the Statue last week, c'mon guys we saw Jacob weaving that tapestry. Obv. he loves arts and crafts. The statue was just paper mache gone too far.

I like to Imagine that Sayid has gone 100% Zombie and just walked across the ocean bed between the Islands.

Also how many times are they going to tease us with the damn outrigger canoe and somebody having a gun. There are time-travelers to shoot damn it.

JoeSC said...

The only thing I ask of the writers is for one Desmond-centric episode this season. If they can deliver on that, I'll be a happy man.

t-dot kim said...

THE DAMN "V" COUNTDOWN IS SO F'N ANNOYING!

Holder said...

That fake ass Tina Fey really needs to get fucked.

Jordan said...

My favorite line was when Smokey told Sawyer that he can't fly across the water and Sawyer replied, "Of course not. That would be ridiculous" The meta joke of all jokes.

Kyle from Kentucky said...

she really does need to be fucked

not a bad episode but most of the shit was predictable. except Sun being shot.

Stephanie said...

Mr Paik sending goons to kill Jin for boning his daughter. Are you kidding me? That's so ridiculous.

Sun only able to speak Korean. Is alt universe bleeding over into island universe?

Wonder what this means.

scrdmnkydst said...

Apparently, this is the first time in 38 episodes that Desmond has been on the Island. Mental.

I thought that Sun's aphasia was just the most stupid way to parallel her not speaking english for the first half of season 1.

This was a big load of meh for me.

PalmerEldritch said...

its weird how horrible Zoey(sp?) looks on the show when she's some sort of famous fitness pole dancer in real life.

so, one of my best friends is a Speech Language Pathologist who insisted that aphasia doesnt work like that. after some googling, Sun has bilingual aphasia as an L2 learber. say what? anyhow, i will rub her nose in it. and it means, while a stupid plot device, someone can have aphasia more severely in one language than another. oh that brain. it's a crazy thing.

that Alt-Paik is a real dick.

PalmerEldritch said...

also, that juxtaposition of pictures is brilliant.

PalmerEldritch said...

also, i like that Widmore provided Jin with a camera before Widmore took Jin off with the intent to reveal his package.

aimee is lost said...

Felt a little slow until Widmore said, "are you ready to see the package?". Then it had my full attention.

Seeing Mikhail after I totally forgot all about him - effing awesome.

I like bacon.

I liked Flocke selling out Kate to Claire. But I wonder if he realizes her name is on the wheel, even if it wasn't in the cave.

The subplot of Sun not being able to speak English was about as useful as Jack's appendectomy episode.

Paik went through a lot of trouble to assassinate his daughter's lover. Couldn't he have just as easily have done it in Seoul?

Given the power of the island, I'm pretty sure the 10 seconds I saw Desmond was enough to impregnate me. I shall name the child Wallace.

PalmerEldritch said...

i guess Paik could've offed Jin in country but it's more fun to have him deliver the watch and kill him out of country. not sure why he had Sun tagalong. maybe just to piss her off really bad?

is Paik the Korean word for Douche-a-potamus?

andrew. said...

- i much prefer the-powers-that-be stretch credulity with things like aphasia than 'Jacob willed it, or it could have been man-in-black, or maybe they're both lying and it was the island's will, uh-oh polar bear got tired of playing with his Tonka truck...'

- yeah. strange that Locke's plan to give Kate to Claire as a chew-toy is based on what was supposed to be a production goof. Didn't Damon say that Kate's name was on the cave but they just didn't show it?

Lexi said...

BIG REVEAL this week!!!!!! Locke says he's three people shy of getting off the island.

ok here's my theory. I think MIB and Jacob are two halves of the same person. I think Jacob completely removed the absolute evil from himself and "bottled" it up on the island.

so the candidate that takes over for jacob would probably have to do the same thing. maybe MIB is a composite of all the evil from all the previous "Jacobs" in the past.

and that's why they can't kill each other. because they are the same person. and probably MIB can't leave the island without Jacob.

but MIB said he found a loophole, and that would be the candidates. he kills Jacob, but 1 of those six will replace Jacob. so he needs the six to come with him so he can get off the island. he has sawyer, sayid, and jin. he just needs sun, jack and hurley.

hmmmmmmm. brain is still bleeding, but it feels good.

that's why MIB needs all the candidates to come with him,

aimee is lost said...

I don't see how the production crew could miss something that big. That seems like such a rookie mistake; not something that could be possible in season 6. Maybe I just have too much faith in them, that they know what they're doing.

Ralph- said...

Has V started yet?

Holder said...

Jesus, I hope so.

clementinesdaddy said...

Frank and Miles are almost as good a comic duo as Sawyer and Miles.

Who wants to see a conversation between Miles, Sawyer, and the Frank? Can you say "sarcasm overload?!?"

Miles: "Hey, Captain Sully, you wanna pass me the fishing pole, or do think you can miraculously land more than a plane...like some fish for supper?!?"

Sawyer: "Just take it easy, James Van Praagh. Let the man be..."

Frank: "I never thought I'd say it, but thanks, Sawyer. It seems a lack of shoulders didn't stop you from having your head slide off the top of your body..."

Sawyer: "Listen, Scruffy, if you wanna tangle, I am more than man enough to take anybody..."

Miles: "Thats not what Juliet told me yesterday..."

Sawyer: "Son-of-a..."

PalmerEldritch said...

"Locke's plan to give Kate to Claire as a chew-toy"

your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter

Stephanie said...

Ian Somerhalder is devilishly good in Vampire Diaries.


Yes, I'm watching it. I am not ashamed.



Well... I'm a little ashamed.

aimee is lost said...

I don't mean to sound so un-hip, but enough with the freaking vampire shows. I hate these cyclical trends that pop culture keeps wanting to shove down my throat.

Gripe.

PalmerEldritch said...

what's a vampire?

Ralph- said...

Unless Tiger Woods or Jesse James is a Vampire, i don't care.

Stephanie said...

Tiger Woods and Jesse James are just men with too much time and money on their hands.

Holder said...

Why do men with loads of fame and money want to have sex with as many women as possible? I don't understand it.

PalmerEldritch said...

cuz men like to KA-BLAMo!!!!

t-dot kim said...

Steph, don't be ashamed. I watch The Vampire Diaries, and he is great in that show. I thought it would just another CW cute-boy-fest, but it's not. However, that does help--I'm not going to lie.

It also doesn't hurt that once the Salvatore brothers' hour is up, I get to watch the Winchester brothers for another hour.

t-dot kim said...

PS...I HATE Twilight

/break even?

scrdmnkydst said...

How I imagine Kyle cooks his bacon

Jordan said...

"Why do men with loads of fame and money want to have sex with as many women as possible? I don't understand it."

Did you not see South Park two weeks ago? It dealt EXACTLY with that question. The government looked into it and everything. Spoiler alert, wizard alien.

Jordan said...

"/break even?"

Not even close. Far too much, as you put it, cute-boy-fests.

Stephanie said...

I don't find Damon attractive at all. Good guys are boring.

Team Damon

Jordan said...

To add to that reply to TDot:

You're voting for Tim Urban, aren't you?

Tha Kid said...

Anyone who thought this wasn't one of the worst episodes of Lost or at least the worst episode of the season is racist (against Kate).

With the exception of finding out that Desmond is the package/that next week's episode is Desmond centric and slightly progressing the Flashsideways storyline (SLIGHTLY), this episode was pointless.

This is the only episode I've ever fast forwarded. I watched it on delay on my DVR so I could skip commercials but ended up FFing the actual show as well so I could watch V.

JoeSC said...

Can we give the "Cooking Bacon with A Gun" guy some kind of Blogspot award? I'd throw in!

Tha Kid said...

Let me clear things up. There were awesome parts to the episode. The thing is that most of these parts, like Sawyer's quick convo with Locke about why Locke can't just turn into smoke and fly across had nothing to do with the main story of the ep and could've easily been added into any episode.

Holder said...

tha kid, you reminded me. is anyone here on xbox live? my gamertag is holderthekid.

and jordan, yeah i was referencing the episode. should have added *(takes a quick peek at the woman standing next to me)*

scrdmnkydst said...

thanks "tha kid", i didn't know next week's episode was desmond centric.

/sarcasm.

/but i actually didn't know.

/didn't really want to either.

Stephanie said...

I don't know why but I give Sun and Jin episodes a pass. I accept the fact they aren't very exciting.

memphish said...

I chalk it up to your many years of marriage Steph. Old married couples, really how interesting could we be?

Holli

Kyle from Kentucky said...

of course MIB knew Austen was on the wheel bc when Claire asked him if Kates name was in the caves he said...."Not anymore."....implying it had been before it was crossed out?

Kyle from Kentucky said...

don't the bagpipes in the promo for next week remind you of any names on that wheel? William W? - Scotland. DDH- Scotland

Holder said...

I was watching some old episodes and it really makes me sad that Sayid is all evil and unemotional now.

Oh and Wallace is irrelevant you crazies.

Kyle from Kentucky said...

I would say its irrelevant too but that 108 is just so damn important to me

and the bagpipe promo. hmm....

mb said...

Wanted to post SO much sooner...

All there really is to comment on at this point is stuff that's been said, so first let me totally agree with Kim when she said that someone one the writing staff must be reading some SAS. Too funny

Sun's strip tease - don't care if those are a stand in or not. That scene right there is something that many male viewers have been hoping for for about 5-6 years.

Also agree with Brad - damn - they do keep teasing us with trips across the water in the outrigger. I keep forgetting about it (b/c truthfully its a meaningless detail) and then it pops into my brain when someone gets ready to use the outrigger. Cracks me up - lol.

Also laughed at the 'flying across the water' interchange. TPTB directly answering fans again - made me laugh.

Was going to point out the reveal that Locke says he's now 3 people shy of leaving the island and that he needs all the candidates to come with him in order to leave...but Lexi's all over it - well done. I like your theory Lexi - not sure I'm subscribing to the 'same person' theory, but they do seem to be interdependent. The theory works though.

Not much mention of it here, but the scene w/Jin looking at Ji-Yeon pics totally got my wife and I - Lost does that shit too damn well!

Overall I think Andrew summed it up with "Meat & Potatoes Lost". I liked it, I do think it progressed the story (and gave a bit of a shocker in the Alt timeline with Sun getting shot), and it had some really good moments.

Also,

Any Doctor Who fans ought to give Chris JC & Joe's (corpsey on the SAS boards) podcast "The Eleventh Hour" a listen as we are heading into a new season and a new Doctor starting SATURDAY (WOOT - it just sank in today). Good Who conversation.

memphish said...

Colbert takes on the V countdown clock. Sorry but you have to see Letterman talk about it first, but he's brief.

Holli

scrdmnkydst said...

Dharma alarm clock

shame its an april fool. i would have totally bought that

Stephanie said...

As the Firewall and Iceberg podcast said "the countdown clock screamed of desperation by ABC."
I'm watching V now. It seems the entire episode has been ADR'ed.

Stephanie said...

Ok, V was ridiculous.

ABC is sorry.

PalmerEldritch said...

Bacon Flavored Baby Formula

awesome!

t-dot kim said...

Steph, I thought the same thing about V being ADR'ed. I decided to give it a shot and watch it this week, but the audio not quite syncing up to the video was so distracting I had to give it up for good.

Sorry V. I tried.

And Jordan--NO, I did NOT vote to Tim Urban, nor ever will! BIG MIKE ALL THE WAY!!!

Jordan said...

Man, I am off my game today. Have fallen for a couple April Fool's posts on sites already. Typically I'm really good at being on my guard on the internet on this day.

Teej said...

OK, first of all, hello everybody again - i've been watching, just not participating...
Secondly, i cried at the bit with Jack helping Sun write stuff.
Also, totally called the Desi bit - as soon as Charles called the package "not what, who"
Lastly, um.... i forget. But hey y'all everybody!

Holder said...

This season of American Idol is terrible. Lee and the tooth chick are the only tolerable ones in my opinion. And they're not even that good. They need some David Archuleta-type raw talent up in that bitch.

scrdmnkydst said...

ADR'ed?

What's the acronym for?

PalmerEldritch said...

hey, tim. welcome back!

i like LOST.


sometimes have to watch American Idol before LOST with the girlfriend. good god, that Ryan Seacrest is an obnoxious, creepy fuck.

PalmerEldritch said...

Automated Dialogue Replacement. also known as Looping.


you Brits may know it as post-sync.

Holder said...

I'm assuming ADR means Audio Dub Recording?

And I think you're way off Palmer. Seacrest doesn't come off as creepy to me. I think he just looks out for the contestants. He calls the judges out when they give contradicting or confusing criticisms. And Bill Simmons says he beasts that job and I trust bill Simmons.

Ralph said...
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Ralph- said...

the newest dharmalar.

www.casinoskunk.com

t-dot kim said...

Ralph, congrats...

...great April Fool's gag

t-dot kim said...

or is it? ("Twilight Zone" theme)

Holder said...

My girlfriend was pregnant, but we aborted the fetus.

...April FOOLS!
We actually murdered it after the birth.

PalmerEldritch said...

holder, he also tries to stare down Simon Crankypants and hassles a girl to recount her friend's death on live TV when she's refusing to do so. creepy. but then again, he could probably just buy TV if he wanted to and forbid me from ever watching any of it ever again.


ralph, i was hoping for a little Apel wookie.

Ralph- said...

Stevi does want a baby. we'll see.

mb said...

:P totally got me on that one Ralph - i didn't read the ensuing posts and was about to post my incredulity with ALL CAPS and lots of exclamation marks. lmao.

PalmerEldritch said...

get a vasectomy, don't tell her, and then try for a baby ALL THE TIME.

Stephanie said...

ralph- will be a great dad.

Bowersox and Andrew Garcia peaked too early. Lee DeWyze would get my vote if I took the time.

I wish Lost would make me cry again.

Tha Kid said...

Dude, Hurlihy, I didn't KNOW (DEFINITIVELY) that next week's episode is Desmond centric when I wrote my reaction to the episode.

Please explain how next week's episode could NOT be Desmond centric after the finish of that pointless episode.

Holder said...

Well the 'friend's death story' probably helped whichever contestant you're referring to. The audition round is all about sad stories and shit. That's not Seacrest, that's Idol.

JoeSC said...

Haven't watched the new episode of V yet, but I really hope I can hold onto this one. I'm really gonna need something in the action / sci-fi genre to replace LOST and 24 after this season!

Ralph - I was about to Cue the Congratulations, but I'm glad I kept reading first. You and Stevi better get crackin', though. Someone's gotta carry on the Dharmalar bloodline!

The wife and I just found out last week that we have one on the way. Feels weird...

Who's psyched for the triumphant return of Fringe tonight?

mb said...

CONGRATS JOE! I can't remember - is this your first, second...?

OH - totally forgot about Fringe's return! Sweet!

JoeSC said...

Thanks mb! This will be nĂºmero uno. Luckily I still have plenty of time to live it up 'til November!

I almost forgot about Fringe, too. It just dawned on me while I was typing the last post. That's what a nearly 2-month hiatus will do to you. It and Breaking Bad are gonna make the wait between LOSTuesdays must more bearable!

PalmerEldritch said...

congrats, joe! nicely done, sir! ;)


fringe is pretty fantasti-great. looking forward to it tonight. good stuff.

mb said...

That's awesome Joe!

As far as what to do before November - certainly celebrate - big time, but I'm just sayin - SLEEEEEEP your ASS off NOW! Stock up on as much sleep as you can - lol.

/kiddin'.....kinda

Tha Kid said...

Congrats Joe!

Really wanted to make a follow up V comment here but since you haven't watched the latest episode I held off.

andrew. said...

- Glad to have Fringe back. After its gawdawful pilot, i would have never thought i'd be so invested in the mythology of that show. Tonight had an awesome alternate credit sequence. Not a spoiler or anything, just don't tune it out.

andrew. said...

also, ABC better get to finding some new programming for when Lost ends, because, after last night, i've written off Modern Family, the only other show i watched on that network.

PalmerEldritch said...

fringe was (and is) a ton of fun. good show. but no spoilers cuz steph (and others) may still be a bit behind.

andrew., i was looking for the alternate intro tonight but havent found it online yet. hilarious.

memphish said...

Thanks for the lack of Fringe spoilers. I haven't watched yet tonight. I like Fringe. I think S2 has been really good when you can find it and remember to watch it. The scheduling has not been good.

So you didn't enjoy the 30 minute iPad ad? Other than a couple of Jay lines I didn't either. Modern Family has pretty much eschewed the modern and returned to standard sitcom fare. On the plus side S1 of Better Off Ted hit Netflix Streaming today.

Holli

Stephanie said...

Guess what! The X Files, Buffy and Angel are all available on Netflixx Watch Instantly.
Haven't been able to catch up on Fringe for the X Files.

andrew. said...

yeah. i was pretty turned off by the iPad commercial. I think the cast & crew did a good job of making it an enjoyable enough episode, but that's part of the tragedy. This creative team came blasting out of the gate with a fully formed show, & instead of being happy to have a hit, ABC tries to make a quick buck, and insults the audience.

andrew. said...

whenever i see that Sayid picture, i think of this (WARNING NSFW boobs content)

PalmerEldritch said...

I LIKE LOST.

scrdmnkydst said...

I LIKE BOOBIES

Kelly Jo said...

I LIKE LOST AND BOOBIES

Holder said...

Nice.

PalmerEldritch said...

i wonder if Jacob's last name was Hubbard. cuz he may not have lived in a shoe, he certainly lived in a foot.

no word on his old mother.

Stephanie said...

Oh no. We're corrupting Kelly Jo.

JoeSC said...

It's perfectly normal to like LOST and boobs!

Now if she was into kidnapping and arson, we might have a cause for concern (although I don't think we could take the blame for that one)!

PalmerEldritch said...

ZULEIKHA-BLAMO!!!!

JoeSC said...
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scrdmnkydst said...

I really hope that "I just went from six to midnight" doesn't mean what I think it means....

/guttermind

alex said...

http://www.sporcle.com/games/MeasuredMayhem/EveryLostCharacter

Even more frustrating than that "Name The Episode Title" quiz

Holder said...

Oh, it means exactly what you think it means.

scrdmnkydst said...

you're disgusting.

i love it.

PalmerEldritch said...

117 lost names out of 187. jeez!

Holder said...

I only missed 1. It was Bai Ling.

No really, I got 89/187. I actually missed 5 ppl from Flight815 and 1 TailSection. Some needs to revoke my fan card.

Holder said...

I don't know if there are any John Mayer fans on the blogspot but I saw him week or 2 ago and it was awesome.

Jordan said...

Just watched Modern Fam-BUY AN IPAD!-ily. Got to agree with Andrew on that one. Think I threw up in my mouth a little.

Tha Kid said...

Modern Family? I just can't see Ed O'Neil in any role other than Al Bundy. It was weird for me in Little Giants and Wanye's World and it's still weird today.

Don't know why I don't feel the same about Katey Sagal. She was normal for me in 8 Simple Rules and LOST.

Holder said...

Speaking of Little Giants...I wonder if Icebox is still hot? I used to want to get up in that. Come to think of it...Icebox is kind of a fucked up name for a little girl.

PalmerEldritch said...

never watched Little Giants. but after very little google searching, yes; icebox grew up right.

andrew. said...

wow. just saw the trailer for Marmaduke. It's like a movie executive watched Beverly Hills Chihuahua and bet his friend a dollar that he could do worse. I bring it up on the blogspot because fans of Pushing Daisies might be in the mood to slap their faces and mutter 'no Lee Pace, no.'

andrew. said...

Happily Birthdate Kirk!

memphish said...

Happy Birthday PalmerEldritch and your alter ego Kirk!

Holli

scrdmnkydst said...

Happy Birthday Palmer. Let it be joyous and bacon filled.

PalmerEldritch said...

thanks, everybody! celebrate my birth with some easter candy.

i wonder what Carlton and Damon have for me this birthweek? pretty sure we had The Rumble in the Jungle with Juliet and Kate one year. so, i'm hoping for a catfight in a pile of Dharma Bacon or something. let's cross our fingers.

Kelly Jo said...

Something I said on twitter that I think the blogspot would enjoy. Apparently my Grandma said, "Because I can't drink anymore I want to try marajuana"

JoeSC said...

Nice one Kelly Jo! I like how your grandma thinks.

Happy B-Day Palmer! I share your birthday wish of a catfight in a pile of Dharma Bacon. Claire vs. Kate? Ilana vs. Cindy? Sun vs. Zoe?

The possibilities are endless!