Wednesday, July 11, 2007

The Lars: Sleeple vs. Barfk


"The Lars": Episode 6 - Ben and Ralph are at it again! Ben reviews an import all the way from New Zealand (just like lord of the rings). A redneck romp and space western get recommended for your queue and we have some really great listener calls!

Playlist:
Who do you want to be- Oingo Boingo
Where the Eages have Been- Wolfmother
Run Fay Run- Isaac Hayes
Too Drunk to F**k- Novelle Vague
Semyon's Song- Yuri Poteyenko

click here to listen:
Sleeple vs. Barfk

181 comments:

memphish said...

It is truly good to be first!

Holli

MB said...

2nd is ...great?

elias said...

This'll do :)

3rd is good enough.

stephsmith said...

Elias, I've went into a diabetic coma just looking at all those drinks.
Yay! Lars.

MB said...

w00t - new Lars! downloading...

Aimee - does the phone have a camera?

someone was asking me - apparently I'm enough of a geek that people assume I would know - lol

trevor mcfur said...

Elias, go with the classic Mai Tai.

stephsmith said...

Awe, my friend, Colleen.

MB said...

Man I wish I had HBO - would love to watch Flight of the Conchords. I assume they will put out DVDs (I hope)

PalmerEldritch said...

mb, iPhones have a camera. but my buddy who has one couldn't figure out how to zoom... :\

memphish said...

MB, You can watch Flight of the Conchords Ep. 4 here.

Ben and Kevin, huh? Ralph you've made quite an impression on Courtney Phillips of Eugene, Oregon.

Holli

memphish said...

Brian Kincaid is giving Dre a run for his 'Lars line money.

Holli

Ralph- said...

was just going to say the same thing!! that dude is awesome. i hope he call back more. "Thank you very Mr. Jazz"!!

ha ha. priceless

MB said...

Excellent - thanks Holli!
Watched 6 mins and already liking it - good stuff. Damn work - gets in the way of good tv!

Ralph- said...

i can not tell if Brian Kincaid is real or not, so i hunted down that email and it came from 402 area code.

Ralph- said...

KA-

stephsmith said...

Hmm. Yeah, I think Ben's right. Watch the show and then the movie. But you'll still enjoy it the other way around.
Lol at the Lar's origin story.

Ralph- said...

BLAMO!

stephsmith said...

I had planned on calling in last week but now I'm glad I didn't. Me in addition to the guy from OK would have been more hickness than the audience would be able to take.

Ralph- said...

i like everyone to call! i dont care if the lars line has a "theme". we love all the comments, even if they happen to be borderline offensive.

PalmerEldritch said...

i'm suffering from Lars Deprivation. maybe i should take the afternoon off so i can go home and download the latest episode?

aimee in little rock said...

I love the camera! It's 2 megapixels; which is awesome, but there is no zoom. However, of the 3 previous camera phones I've owned before this, when has the zoom ever been of service to me? Never. Zooms degrade the photo quality so much, I'd never use it anyway.

The only ACTUAL downside to it is there's no flash for it. So you get amazing photos, but not in your basement. Not that I take a lot of photographs in my basement.

memphish said...

For anyone trying to keep up with the Cloverfield stuff, there's more info. out that the Ethan Haas website we spent last week playing on has nothing to do with the movie, but is instead linked to a video game. Here's a summary of that info.

Holli

Jimmy said...

Aimee? You got an iPhone?????

PalmerEldritch said...

yes, jimmy, she got an iphone and she uses it to take pictures in her basement. but not a lot of them.

aimee in little rock said...

Jimmy, I most certainly did! This is the part of the divorce process where you get to buy yourself expensive shit you can't afford. You think I'm going to pass that up?

aimee in little rock said...

Palmer, I don't have a basement. But I do have a downstairs. And I don't take pictures of that.

But the Dharmalars know a chick that probably does.

PalmerEldritch said...

bow chicka bow wow.

Benjamin said...

If we can't get any pictures of your basement, Aimee, can you send us pictures of your balcony?

RIMSHOT!

Ralph- said...

for those of you who cant get enough of the dharmalars shows. i have already uploaded the Comic Con Survival Guide. it isnt posted on itunes or anything, but if you wanna check it out. PALMER? i know where you can do that....

RIGHT HERE.
It's not that entertaining. it is more of a educational podcast. but if you are bored, and wanna see some of the junk going down in SanDiego, you can check it out.

Aimee, if i knew a chick that would do that, i wouldnt be posting shows, i would be looking at sweet basement pictures. :'(

Jimmy said...

I know all about the "Divorce" process. For me, it was new haircut, 20 new shirts and a gym membership. Not to mention several trips to the Dr's!

Ralph- said...

jimmy did you shampoo the back of your neck when you got your haircut, or was that too erotic?

memphish said...

Going to get me a double dose of Wednesday 'Lars because by Monday morning commute time, I'll be on the beach.

Holli

Jimmy said...

Ralph...

Not totally sure what you are implying, but my favorite part of getting my haircut is the "shampooing". My neck does get shaved, yes...gets a little fuzzy.

From one hairy dude to another...what about you ????
:)

aimee in little rock said...

Haven't you gotten enough balcony shots from your adoring fans already? You don't need mine!

memphish said...

David Letterman and Optimus Prime.

Holli

stephsmith said...

Comic Con survival guide = heartbreak

Ralph- said...

i think that Brian Kincaid mentioned that the shampooing the neck was too erotic.

PalmerEldritch said...

personally, i like to think of shampooing the back of my neck as "just erotic enough."

/wait... what?

Benjamin said...

There's no such thing as "enough" balcony shots. ; )

Anyone caught up on John From Cincinnati?

trevor mcfur said...

I think that any Balcony Shots should be posted on Dharmalars.net.

Malcolm said...

im seeing a ton of movies this week. i normally dont see that many in theaters. monday, i saw Ratatouille. tuesday, i saw blades of glory at a local crappy theater that plays old movies. i never got to see it the first time. i can say that both of those movies were fucking awesome.

run ronnie run is so great. when you mentioned it on the jay and jack thing last year, i was like "ralph is awesome for watching such a great movie." when you put it in stick it in your q, i popped in my dvd and watched it. its great. serenity was already in my q. i have seen the whole series, and i am awaiting serenity.

i stuck bottle rocket soooooo far up my q, it came in the other day. i give it a robot lubricant.

so for now, give her a little kick in the c word.*

dont be offended. its a run ronnie run reference.

memphish said...

Kablamo!

Holli

dharmalars said...

Oh that Kablammo reminds me, guys. When I got my Dharmalars messenger bag from cafepress, it had a sticker inside from inspector...42!

MB said...

Hey Aimee,
just sent you a pic for your avitar - to celebrate your purchase

(i sent it to the TLI email)

Jordan from the 206 said...

Holy moly. You guys have been at it today. Just checked in for the first time since this morning. So Steph is green, some Brian Kinkaid dude is all the rage, Jimmy shampoos his neck, Palmer is still getting it on with Ms. Hatch, and for some reason Aimee is taking pictures of her downstairs in her basement? I'm confused.

And Malcom. I totally give Bottle Rocket a robot lubricant. Robot lubricant for all Wes Anderson movies for that matter. Robot Lubricant has to be the best rating system ever. Regardless the movie, I think it should be used. lol.

andrew. said...

Bottle Rocket is my least favorite Wes Anderson film, but it's still awesome and worth a few quarts of robot lubricant

Ben - caught up on "John From Cincinnati" I'm still on the fence, but have sort of resigned myself to watching the rest of the season. I figure it's the last anyway. That last episode was especially poopy though. Rebecca De Mornay trying to act enraged was a real low point.

Ralph - is it still possible to get Dharmalames stuff from Cafe Press? My goldenrod shirt should be arriving tomorrow, but i prefer white t-shirts and i never got around to ordering up the thong.

Buffy marathon tonight. i'm going to try and plow through 1/2 of season 6 and get a lot of design work done.

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Jordan from the 206 said...

I agree Andrew, Bottle Rocket is my least favorite of WA's films. But the fact that I love the others so is a big reason why. For what it is, it's a damn good flick.

BTW, I went and saw Die Hard 4 the other day. I give that a messy splooge of Robot lube. I was surprised at home violent it was for being PG-13. Apparently if you don't show much blood, you can shoot and kill as many people as you wish. And just as long as we don't see one nano-second of a nipple!!!!

stephsmith said...

And you can only say the f word once and keep a PG13? 13 year olds can hear it once but 17 year olds can hear it more than once? As a parent of a child who loves PG13 movies, that enrages me. Who the hell are the mpaa?
http://www.mpaa.org/Ratings_FAQ.asp
We need a revolution.

stephsmith said...

I would much rather my child see a boobie than hear the f word or see a bunch of violence she's not ready for.
Oh and btw, Jordan, I'm green with envy over ComicCon in case you didn't read.

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Ralph- said...

For those of you who hate Bai Ling there is a funny little article at What Would Tyler Durden Do (wwtdd.com) that makes fun of her.

For those of you who like Bai Ling there is a funny little article at What Would Tyler Durden Do (wwtdd.com) that shows her boobies.

Jordan from the 206 said...

I really think that this country is ass backwards in this regard. In other parts of the world they are much more sensitive to violence are waaaaaaaaaaaaay more accepting of nudity. How is a young kid seeing a naked woman worse than it seeing a bunch of people murdered??? And I'm not talking about sex scenes, just nudity. The puritanical roots of this country still still hold a grip on these kind of things. And when you visit other parts of the world and see the difference, it's even worse how big of a stick so many in this country have up their ass.

PalmerEldritch said...

jordan...

i don't want to get punched in the face, but i'm gunna stick up for America here. the US is a lot better with nudity than some other countries. cut the US a break; we're not outlawing these movies, we're not stoning anyone, and we're not threatening to execute pornographers. there are much stricter countries than the US.

and even if we're stricter than europe, the movie system (and the MPAA itself) is a voluntary creation of the theater owners and the movie industry. and if a couple wants to bring their kids to an R movie, they can. heck, there were little kids in the audience when i saw "Summer of Sam."

the US is down on underage kids watching nude scenes but is ok with violence (as long as there's no blood). on the other end of the spectrum, Europe is OK with the boobs but has "puritanical" views on exposing kids to violence. in the UK and Germany, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles had to change their name to Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles because the word "Ninja" was too violent. the WORD was too violent. and when Attack of the Clones came out, Jango Fett caught shit in the UK cuz he headbutted someone who wasn't wearing protective headgear.

america... FUCK YEAH!

Jordan from the 206 said...

I hear ya Palmer. There's a nice balance in between both sides. I just don't see at all the big deal about nudity. Now sex, for sure. Raunchy sex scenes are one thing. But I just don't understand how a 2 second flash of boob is so much worse than John McClane killing about 30 people in a not so friendly manner. I'm not saying that either is bad or that it should be censored by any means. Just that I don't understand this country's gigantic hang up with nudity and near deaf ear to violence.

Just watch, in a few years we'll have PG-13's with full on bloody deaths. I mean, just compare an R from 15 years ago to a PG-13 today. But when it comes to nudity, in a few years the ratings board will still be just as paranoid.

On a side note. Has anybody seen the documentary about how the MPAA and movie ratings work? I think it's called "Rated R".

trevor mcfur said...

Boobies.

And Bai Ling has some freaky-ass nipples. I won't reveal whether I lie on the pro-Bai or anti-Bai side.

PalmerEldritch said...

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!

trevor, after you mentioned that, i had to take a look out of a morbid sense of curiosity... i regret that.

i may not ever be able to sleep again. *shudder*

i warn you all, do not look directly at the nipples.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Thanks a lot guys. I was just about to eat dinner.

trevor mcfur said...

No complaints ... you were warned.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Yeah, yeah. I know. But the bizarre temptation was too much. So be the mystical powers of Bai Ling.

PalmerEldritch said...

it's like a car wreck. you know it's going to be bad, but you end up taking a peak as you go by.

stephsmith said...

Ever notice how in the 80's every movie showed boob? Nowdays they're only in sex scenes. Have filmmakers given up in the battle with the mpaa? I don't think the public is disinterested in seeing boobies. I can't tell you how fun it is to type the word boobie.
http://www.blogthings.com/boobienamegenerator/
Hehe. While googling the word boobie to make sure I was spelling it correctly, I found a name generator. Why do I feel I have to explain myself? Mine are milkshakes.

trevor mcfur said...

I seem to recall that, back in the day, you could once in a while find a boobie in a PG rated movie. Now I don't think that you could find one even in a PG-13 rated movie. Because all the problems with society? It's because someone once saw a boobie as a kid.

Thanks for the info Stephanie! I typed in my wife's name and got Chi-chi's. I'll have to try that the next time the moment presents itself. Maybe it'll go over better than the time I tried to name them 'Beavis and Butthead'.

PalmerEldritch said...

i interrupt this boobies conversation to bring you THIS

i now return you to your scheduled boob discussion.

boobs!

gillian said...

Serenity is bad ass. So is Firefly, for that matter. Cancelled way too early, but each episode is totally worth it.

Whovians-you seen the promo pictures for the new Christmas special yet? Kylie's outfit so does not fit with the timeline, but I love her boots. And her.

Anyway...I agreed with Ralph about RotJ-the Ewoks were a complete cop out, and, well, yeah. I mean, the beginning was good enough, but little teddy bears getting rid of storm troopers with laser guns? I think not! I suppose it could have been a comment on guerilla warfare, though. If one were to give Lucas that uch credit.

gillian said...

Oh, god, I sound like a complete dork! GAH!

gillian said...

For those who, like me, love Arrested Development.

http://talkalotsaynothing.blogspot.com/2007/07/godfather-vs-arrested-development.html

Yeah, no idea how to made links say stuff other than the URL.

Ghostwatch The Great said...

We kick out the boringest white people from our country and they go and form one where years later they can make sure nobody sees a nipple in a film. (Sorry!)

We have a totally different rating system so its hard to see what the comparisons are, but I assume the greater level of boobs in 80s movies would be cos they were for a higher age bracket.

In this country the tipping point seemed to be Jurassic Park.

Back then, it should really have been rated a 12 (NOBODY under 12 admitted, even with a guardian - bear in mind, the 12 only came in because otherwise, Batman in 1989 would have to be rated 15) as the next one down was PG (pretty much as you imagine, any kid of any age can go with a parent but you still expected a fairly gentle movie experience.

Money talked and Jurassic Park went PG (otherwise you could kiss goodbye to a shitload of its revenue).

Nowadays fewer and fewer people go to the cinema so to maximise box office they need to make films as broad base appeal as possible. the kids could usually handle much more, but parents may be concerned about the content- which is why you now get those little boxes telling you exactly what to expect.

This has given us the PG-13 horror movie (Boogeyman, Cursed) and other Things That Should Not Be.

Steph - a question. If taking a son to see a film instead of a daughter, would you be more concerned about boob? Would you think twice at taking her to a film with the tiniest flash of willy action in it?

I'm not "calling you out" on anything - I'm just wondering if that would make a difference.

In terms of our cinema tastes we used to sit pretty neatly between the US and mainland Europe. However, as in so many other things, the gravity of the States is dragging us further towards it year by year.

I'm pretty hopeful none of the above will cause offence - if it does, let me know and I'll try to explain.

PalmerEldritch said...

ah, nothing like waking up for a fresh KABLAMO!!!!

Ghostwatch The Great said...

Bollocks - I only just realised I missed my KABLAMO opportunity.

stephsmith said...

ghostwatch, I don't kow how I'd feel if I were a parent of a boy rather than a girl. It would be a totally different mindset. As you know girls have to be protected and coddled. Boys have to be made into men. They have to be toughened up. I'm being sarcastic if you can't tell. It's just that in Europe nudity is done tastefully and artsy-fartsy. Here, we've cheapened it. Or somebody has made it trashy.

stephsmith said...

Poor Daniel Radcliffe. He's over here to promote Harry Potter and all anyone wants to hear about is his experience doing nude on stage.

Mike Campbell said...

Yeah when i was in Switzerland the Nudity was very tastefull. Has anyone seen the show My Games Fever. They have all these stupid puzzles to slove and you can win money. Well at 11pm each night they had a show like, but the twist was the lady hosting the show would randomly take off her clothes. since it was in german i couldn't fully understand why her clothes kept coming off but it was funny to watch.

PalmerEldritch said...

Mike, when you mention German TV, all I can think of is Sprockets .

/Would you like to touch my monkey?

stephsmith said...

I think the issue with the rating system boils down to this- parents are too lazy to pay attention to what their kids are doing. They want the government to do it for them. If we're not careful, the government will have full control and it will be our fault. They have the internet in their sights now. Ok, gone to register Morgan for school now. Ugh.

PalmerEldritch said...

i think the MPAA is a non-governmental body. but they might be mandated by law now. they're made up of representatives of the major movie studios. and then the national association of theater owners (the other NATO) agrees to stand by the MPAA's (sometimes arbitrary) ratings.

oh. gotta listen to the Dharmalars. then the Lars.

aimee in little rock said...

I'm going to put my two cents into this MPAA debate:

Boobies and violence are both wonderful additions to films - if you're an adult. I don't have children, but if I did, I'd hope that I would have enough sense to shelter them as much as possible from excessive sex and violence. They get enough of that in school.

And that is what it really comes down to. Parental responsiblity. The fucking parents need to have some fucking common sense and not let their children see movies that they know are going to have bad shit in it.

Um, if the movie is called "DIE HARD"...do you think it's going to be appropriate for children? Probably not.

Get a fucking clue mom and dad.

I went to see the Texas Chainsaw Massacre: the Beginning when it was in theaters and there was a family with mom, dad, and three freaking kids, that were - I shit you not - ages 10, 7, and I swear, a girl no older than 4 years old. This movie contained some of the most disturbing images I've ever seen in a horror film. Chainsaws ripping into bodies like there was no tomorrow. Girls getting raped by old dudes. And there was a fucking 4 year old girl watching it, with her parents.

Oh yeah, my boobies are named Love Muffins

stephsmith said...

Well, yeah. I should have been more clear, p. They'd rather let someone else mandate the rules. Because of this, the government will get their hands on our internet.

aimee in little rock said...

That is the grossest looking nipple-thing I've ever seen. Bai Ling is way gross.

I'm sorry. I couldn't control my curiosity.

Love Muffins

PalmerEldritch said...

aimee, i hope you didn't type all that on your iphone.

love muffins, eh? i was expecting a LOTR reference. maybe Orthanc and Barad-Dur? the Palantirs? no way Dr. Eyeliner, Ranger of the North, would be able to resist you then.

stephsmith said...

I couldn't believe the 10 year old boys I saw in the theater when I saw 300. What were these parents thinking?

FutureAlly said...

My boobies are named Betty and Veronica. Not as fun as Love Muffins, but I guess it will do.

elias said...

saw this on Popbitch:

Journey's brilliant Don't Stop Believing has hit number one in Ireland, thanks to an appearance on the final episode of The Sopranos.

Ghostwatch The Great said...

Again - hope I caused no offence.

In the UK 300 was rated 15 here meaning that (legally, at least) nobody under the age of 15 could get in. And even that was pretty lenient.

Texas Chainsaw: The Beginning was 18 - our closest thing to NC17 (that, I believe, pretty much every film wants to avoid for reasons that we, with an 18 certificate being quite normal, can't quite understand).

On a more positive note, I'm watching Top Secret! again - was really happy to translate the Pig Latin being spoken by a priest on the way to the electric chair ("you're going to get fried n the chair"). Tried it in Google and there were only 2 results.

Ralph- said...

Has anyone seen "This Film Is Not Yet Rated"? it is a documentary all about the MPAA. it is in my queue. i may bump it up and see if you guys will be into it or not. My friend Jeff and Flenoy say that it is really really interesting and very entertaining. I hear that the filmmakers get a PI to follow the "secret" members of the mpaa to find out who they are, then they make the documentary and end up having to screen the movie for them to get their rating.

sounds really interesting.

Ghostwatch The Great said...

Hang on... the MPAA are secret?

that's fucked up.

I may not totally side with the BBFC - but at least they're pretty open.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Here's the documentary about the MPAA that I was referring to yesterday. Not sure who it was, but I remember coming across it on somebody on here's netflix queue. I think it might have been Andrew.

This Film is Not Yet Rated

Steph, You are right about nudity being done more tastefully in other countries. But the big difference to me is how the different countries view nudity at it's most basic form. Many in this country directly relate nudity with sex and debauchery. Where as in other places, a naked person is just a naked person. Here it's "oh my goodness! That woman is naked!" Other places it's, "Eh. What's the big deal?" So all of our young innocent kids that we're affraid of being corrupted are raised with the connotation that nudity is wrong and taboo. That it is something that shouldn't be seen.

And just like anything, when something is viewed as taboo or off limits, it thusly becomes something that inquiring or rebeleous minds seek out. Just like drugs or alcohol. You tell young kids that drinking or smoking weed is "bad", they are going to be drawn to the "I'm not supposed to be doing this. Oooh, I'm being bad" excitement that comes with it.

If a child from infancy has it instilled in his mind that a naked woman is dirty and directly related to sex, his mindset will be shaped to see things in this way. But if nobody ever told him that a naked body was a big deal, he wouldn't care too much. All I'm saying is that a naked body on it's own isn't that big of a deal. The only reason it is in this country is because we make it that way. And like I said in a previous post, I'm not talking about hard core sex or even casual sex scenes. I don't think that young children should be watching some chick being done doggy style while Christian Bale is watching himself flex in the mirror. And nor do I think a young child should watch the rest of that movie. lol.

All of what I just said is really beside the point. Steph and Aimee both nailed it. Parents need to be more responsible in what they allow their children to see. Don't just rely on the rating. And for crying out loud, please really think about it before you go take your 7 year old to go see Saw III.

Ok, rant over.

PalmerEldritch said...

again, the US gets a lot of shit about a lot of issues. but at least we're not the other guys. not illegal for a woman to show her ankle or any stuff like that.

a woman can legally go topless in NYC. most places in the US, public nudity is a fine or a minor crime. a woman who does that in certain parts of the world gets stoned to death. credit where credit is due.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Of course Palmer. This isn't a bash the US session. I hate when people do that. For all the flaws that Euros point out, they have their own set.

And just because one might be critical of something in their own country doesn't mean that they hate it or don't appreciate it. That's one thing that I like about this country. Most people aren't scared to point the finger at themselves. I've been to a lot of countries across the water where most of the people are so quick to rip on the states, yet they are impervious to admitting their home land has any flaws.

My only point this whole time is that if I had a young child (boy or girl) and I had to pick between them seeing a naked woman (not having sex mind you) or seeing a guy murder a bunch of people, it would be a no brainer for me favoring the harmless woman in her natural form. But it's soooooo much the other way around here, and that just baffles me.

Let's get onto a less serious topic. Those Bai Ling nipples, nasty huh? lol.

PalmerEldritch said...

Bai Ling's boobies, according to the Boobie Name Generator, are "Mork and Mindy."

highly appropriate since they look like some kind of alien creatures.

Jordan from the 206 said...

I think she must've ran out of money while getting her boobs done. She made it all the way to the nipples and had to go with the cheapest alternative. Either that or she does weird things with them, really weird things.

elias said...

This Film is Not Yet Rated - I saw it and was somewhat disappointed. Brief history of MPAA, then they hire PIs to track down board members but it didn't really make for compelling viewing.

They also interview directors who have clashed with MPAA - it may be worth seeing it for this alone. Could have done with more Kevin Smith and others.

Benjamin said...

Apparently my boobies are Tonya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan. Hmm. I wonder which one is going to get her boyfriend to get his friend to assault the other?

aimee in little rock said...

LOL, Ben. Maybe it knows you're a guy and it gave you some violent names for trying to mess with it.

I like Jordan's theory about Bai Ling's nipples. She definitely is up to no good with those freaky ass things.

PalmerEldritch said...

ben, if someone punches you in the tit, you're legally obligated to whine "why?! why?! why?!"

aimee in little rock said...

I found a Transformers Nickname Generator!

Tranform and Roll Out!

Optimus Prime (Autobot)
Scavenger Scream (Decepticon)

andrew. said...

Great episodes of the Lars & the Dharmalars. If you're not gong to comicon, the preparation-cast might make you a little more green like Stephanie.

Unfortunately "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" didn't really live it up to it's potential.
here's my netflix note: "potentially interesting subject, but the investigation is sloppy and substance free. doesn't make a strong case about the impact of unfavorable ratings or illuminate the motivations of the MPAA"
Part of the problem is that i already knew about the inconsistencies in the MPAA's ratings where violence largely gets a pass but any reference to sexuality, especially homosexuality, makes the difference between PG & R or NC-17. The film spends a lot of time with that, as it should, but didn't really get into why they should be so puritanical or what they get out of it.
I don't mind things being rated in theory, if just to provide parents with a frame of reference, but the reality is that film ratings are demonstrably tied to the financial earnings of movies. PG-13 movies will make more money than R-rated movies, and an NC-17 rating can ruin a film. Studios then edit the films, sometimes in script stage, to achieve target ratings, which means you get shitty PG horror or action movies when the premises are obviouly R-rated subject matter.

Hit my comic shop this morning. New issues of Madman and B.P.R.D.!
I almost bought the issues for Buffy The Vampire Slayer season 8 comic, since i'm only 1.5 seasons away on DVD, but decided i'll just wait for the trade paperback.

Ben/Ralph, you can make a list in Netflix of all of your "Stick It In Your Queue" picks. I just made my first list of "underseen films" which is essentially just my "Stick It In Your Queue" picks.

FutureAlly said...

Autobot - Alpha Alert

Decepticon - Galva Shell

MB said...

Totally agree that I my jaw-drops at the movies that I see young kids watching. Not sure what is going to happen when they're teenagers, but one step at a time, right?

Aimee - you should have warned me that the Liz Phair CD is like crack. My iPod hasn't left that playlist for 4 days. good stuff (not crack - just Liz)

re: Bai Ling's nip - those are....um...not right. rarely do nipples outshadow the boob.

Gillian - re: Kylie on Who - the boots look cool, but you're right, with the whole outfit, she looks kinda odd for a waitress.

MB said...

Oops -

yours truly
Omega Flight (autobot)/ Mega Cracker (Decepticon)

MB said...

wow - just noticed that Aimee is Optimus Prime. Don't fuck with Aimee.

aimee in little rock said...

I know, I couldn't believe it gave me that! I actually felt guilty for having it, so I tried putting in my full name, and it still gave me Optimus Prime!

It's like my destiny.

PalmerEldritch said...

aimee, no fair. i got stuck with Spark Maximus and Kick Cracker.

Kick Cracker? what am i? an anti-Whitey Decepticon?

MB said...

Didn't know them Autobots counted breakdancing amongst their skills

PalmerEldritch said...

mb, unfortunately, yes. transformers break dance. have you seen the new movie?

*mild spoilers*


Jazz break dances while transforming. he also talks jive. in a bad way though. not like the old cartoon.


*end spoilers*

Jordan from the 206 said...

Orion Quest (Autobot)
Shrapnel Jet (Decepticon)

Ralph- said...

i always fought under the American Gladiator name, "Torrential Rain"!

Ralph- said...

KABLAMO

Ralph- said...

Alpha Prime (bleh)- Autobot
Scrapper Wave (hooray!)- Decepticon

As a kid i was all about Autobots, i just wish that my autobot name was cooler.

Benjamin said...

I think my American Gladiators name was "Cold Front." I am Autobot Beach Magnus or Decepticon Menasor Strong. I've never heard of either of those. Are they real guys? I guess there's some wiki-ing in my future.

Speaking of which, I've been on this site a lot today and it is so entertaining and awesome. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage

It's all about various tropes in TV, and other forms of fiction. Great stuff.

Oh, and if anyone punches me in the tit, I'll try remember to cry and ask why. But mostly I'll probably just cry.

Benjamin said...

Oh, and Andrew: Did you read the letters page of Madman yet?

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aimee in little rock said...

Menasor Strong is an awesome name!

Jordan from the 206 said...

Speaking of American Gladiators. I've been watching it a little bit of late on ESPN Classic. The one event that I can't stand to watch has got to be Atlasphere. That game is so boring.

PalmerEldritch said...

every American Gladiator event is handtailored for maximum awesomeness. just some more than others...

gotta love the eliminator, joust, the wall, and the one where they shoot stuff at that target while avoiding tennis balls.

and any time that they interview a gladiator, you know you're in for some fun.

Jordan from the 206 said...

I love it when the a contender and gladiator get a little too into it. I was watching the other day and some chick pretty much took a swing at one of the female gladiators. The gladiator was pissed, but cooler heads intervened. I was disappointed.

aimee in little rock said...

Ralph & Ben, I have to take this moment to thank you for sticking it in my queue. I don't think I've brought it up before.

You guys actually recommend some pretty good flicks, and should be recognized for your awesome taste in movies. Because of you, I was able to stick Kiss Kiss Bang Bang in my queque, and it felt really good.

Ralph- said...

actually? was there any doubt. I will start recommending movies that are not to everyone's taste. i am trying to mold my recommendations (and i think ben is as well) to kind of have you all guage where we stand on movies. I am going to start of with films that may be a little off, but crowd pleasers non the less. I am going to get to the point where i get really obscure, but i figured a progression is in order

Jordan from the 206 said...

"I have to take this moment to thank you for sticking it in my queue."

That's what she said.

aimee in little rock said...

"...and it felt really good."

Jordan from the 206 said...

Uh oh. Ralph is going to get obscure on us? Prepare for Godzilla Vs Mechagodzilla II & Robot Jox.

Ralph- said...

ok hold on one second. Robot Jox will never be in the queue segment. i had that movie in my queue and watched it, and it was a big old steamy pile!!!

I was going to include my favorite Godzilla Movie maybe around Sept. or January.....HOLY SHIT! i have a lot of movies to recommend to you all. I think that ben and i may go into TV shows that you can stick in your queue.

i hope that i can find enough obscure movies that i actually like to stick in the segment.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Hey, has anybody watched the Up series documentaries? I've heard some good things and am considering checking them out. If you haven't heard of them, it's a series of documentaries that follows young the lives of young children and catches up with them every 7 years. The first one was in the 60's, so the kids are now full on adults. I think it would be very interesting to see people's lives progress that much over a short period of time.

Jordan from the 206 said...

I was just messing with Robot jox, Ralph. I remembered you saying it sucked balls. lol.

MB said...

Couldn't agree more about Kiss Kiss Bang Bang - saw it in the theaters and thought it was best dialogue I had heard in a long time. It's like a bottomless trough of good quotes (for posting as I am about to do)

/Perry: Go. Sleep badly. Any questions, hesitate to call.
Harry: Bad.
Perry: Excuse me?
Harry: Sleep bad. Otherwise it makes it seem like the machanism that allows you to sleep...
Perry: What, fuckhead? Badly's an adverb. Who taught you grammar? Get out. Vanish.

MB said...

checking out the tv tropes site - this could lead to a lot of un-productivity

Ralph- said...

i know, jordan, i just needed to make perfectly clear on how shitty Robox Jox was. By the way, i think ben and i need to start recommending movies that are so bad, that they have to be seen to believe. i bet you that i will end up putting "The Apple" on one of the future episodes. Look for that in December!!

Jordan from the 206 said...

Yeah. That's what I was saying a while ago. You guys should do a whole segment on "Movies so bad, they are good" or "Movies so bad, you have to see them with your own eyes". That would be highly entertaining.

PalmerEldritch said...

ralph, if you're looking for unbelievably bad movies, i'm STILL recommending Hoop Soldiers.

also, great Comic-Con tips. they'll be very useful. also, mad props to a man who owns Re-Animator on DVD.

must've watched that movie about a dozen times in middle school. gore AND boobies. two great tastes that go great together.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Any Metal Gear Solid fans?

New MGS4 trailer

aimee in little rock said...

I'm trying to think of a movie that sucked balls really hard, but it's funny because I just always seem to find a lame redeeming quality in all of them.

Give me all of your shitty unwanted movies. I'll give them a good home. Poor things.

MB said...

Just browsing the Tv Tropes site, and in the list of "Acceptable Targets" on TV, it says:

THE OVERWEIGHT: Once a television character reaches a certain level of tubbiness, the show they are in will lose all sympathy for them. It is generally assumed that overweight people are either pathetic, obnoxious losers or Corrupt Corporate Executives. They also tend to be portrayed as ludicrously obsessive eaters. Glandular conditions and low metabolism, which are fairly common in real life, are treated as a lame excuse in the "I'm just big boned" mold

This is one of the many reasons I love Lost - that they have managed to break MULTIPLE stereotypes (overweight bashing, general intolerance for non-english speaking protagonists...) and done it so well, with such good writing. I know we've all talked about this but reading that just underscored to me that I think the show is not only good, but important to have on the air.

elias said...

I think my first email to the Dharmalars was about how much RobotJox sucked. I seem to remember Ralph protested in his reply but that was probably before he saw it again. It was probably one of my worst rentals as a kid and it will never be forgiven for being shit.

all this boobs talk reminds me:

"Now I know I'm pretty, but I ain't as pretty as a couple of titties."

MB said...

now - back to the suck-ass movie talk. reading a description of the Apple makes me think of those other 2 cinematic apogees, Xanadu and Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band

apologies to lovers of those films

Ghostwatch The Great said...

All I remember from Robot Jox was the cheap Terminatory-y villain guy. Didn't he get stabbed in the cheek with an Afro-comb?

Guys - I'm gonna knock it off with the cinema rating comparisons. I'm not US-bashing, and if you thought I was, I'm terribly sorry. It'd be a silly thing for me to do on a predominantly US blog that I enjoy the company of. Most of the bashing seemed to come from in-land.

However, as penance, I'll watch any given film where an American detective comes to London to help with a case and without fail everyone else in the city is utterly pointless or antagonistic. Recommend? Actually - make your suggestion Split Second and I'll do it happily.

I bigged up Withnail & I the other day for having two Doctor Whos (one slightly less official than the other these days) and Vernon Dursley in it - but Top Secret! fans note that it also features a short but memorable appearance by Eddie Tagoe, AKA La Chocolat-Mousse as "Presiming Ed".

Jordan from the 206 said...

Leave your ipod at home during an electrical storm.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/ptech/
07/12/ipods.lightning.ap/index.html

elias said...

I'm not one for trashing movies but a friend told me King Kong (1976) hits bottom when Jessica Lange asks Kong what his star sign is.

I'm not really a fan of Robert Redford directing shite like The Horse Whisperer.

Some choice ones here:

Worst Films Ever

Ralph- said...

Mother Brain, i know how The Apple description sounds, but believe me, there is nothing that can compare to it. I know that Producer Ryan owns both Xanadu and The Apple (for the bad factor). but he will stand by The Apple any day of the week!

I will have to do the Apple on the show, because after watching the Apple, it will be etched your mind for at least one week!!

Seargent Peppers is a movie i want to see, but producer ryan wont let me. You should send an email to SeargentPepperMovieIsAwesome@dharmalars.net!
with the subject line "am i not turtley enough?"

Ralph- said...

Chocolat-Mousse is in Raiders of the Lost Ark

aimee in little rock said...

I hope iPhones are exempt from that, cause I'm going to be pissed if I get struck by lightning and ruin it. I don't care about me!

aimee in little rock said...

Remember that thing I was saying earlier about redeeming qualities in films? I forgot about Gigli, From Justin To Kelly, Crossroads, and Glitter.

My apologies to you all.

Ralph- said...

elias, i will probably do Ed Wood next week. i almost did it this week, but we did a comic con theme.

Ralph- said...

aimee, send those balcony shots before your phone gets struck by lightning.

PalmerEldritch said...

even if you can't zoom in.

aimee in little rock said...

I'll send you some balcony shots, but they won't be mine.

aimee in little rock said...

I would think after seeing Bai Ling's balcony today, you guys would be scared off for a while!

PalmerEldritch said...

best of both worlds, ralph gets balcony shots and doesn't have to feel awkward the next time you two talk.

PalmerEldritch said...

argh!! why did you have to remind me of her sausage nipples?! ack!!!

FutureAlly said...

"i will probably do Ed Wood next week."


that's what she said.

PalmerEldritch said...

ally (of the future), that was a damn good That's What She Said. three cheers for you!

Jordan from the 206 said...

Speaking of terribly awful movies, I just watched part of Dead or Alive, the movie based on the video game. (it wasn't my choice) Yikes. If it weren't for the hot chicks, it would've been entirely unwatchable. There's this one weird scene where Jaime Pressly's dad walks into her room while she is sharing her bed with a girl. And for the rest of the movie, he keeps making lesbian jokes to his own daughter while laughing and sounding horny. Really weird.

MB said...

Well Ralph - now you've intrigued me - I'll have to watch the Apple at some point.

MB said...

and - wow I didn't think that Bai Ling's nipples could be more disturbing, but likening them to "sausage" did it.

elias said...

when I was in Canada years ago my brother insisted on seeing Mortal Kombat instead of Desperado. I still hold a grudge.

I love Ed Wood and Depp has possibly never been better.

Ralph- said...

i love Depp's portrayal of Ed Wood, but i am really fond of his portrayal of Raul Duke in Fear and Loathing.

elias said...

"Tell me about the fucking golf shoes!"

There are so many performances to consider but I think his Ed Wood has great humour and more serious moments, crossdressing, etc.

andrew. said...

Saw Ralph's letter in Madman! very nice. the only comic i ever wrote to was Walking Dead. i mostly wrote to give my brother a shout out, but it didn't get printed.

Jordan from the 206 said...

So I was going back and listening to a couple of the very first TLI shows Kim and Aimee did that I didn't catch. And guess what? I found out MB's real name! The mystery is solved. Aimee mentions it the first time he emailed them. Now that I know the secret, it begs the question. Seeing as his name starts with neither m or b, what does mb stand for then?

MB said...

Wow - impressive sleuthing Jordan. However, as my real name does in fact start with an M, I want to hear what Aimee said, I don't remember her referring to me as something else. Which episode?

Producer Ryan said...

I swear to God, Ralph. I will swim across the Pacific for the sole purpose of kicking your ass.

The Apple is completely entertaining. It's not your typical bad movie. The "suck factor" keeps your interest for the entire running time. We recorded an episode devoted to The Apple, but after realizing we couldn't properly convey the "suck," we shelved it. The only time we've done that intentionally, I think.

The Sgt. Pepper film is a crime against humanity. George Burns should not sing Fixing a Hole. I do, however, own two double LP copies of the soundtrack. I have no idea why.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Really mb? Dang. I thought I had figured it out. She called you Adam. This is in what I think was the 2nd podcast they did, which is the oldest that shows up on itunes.

MB said...

True say Jordan (as Kim says). I am an "M" in real life.

And wow - you're right, I just heard it! I think they were just mixing up the email Kim had just read from Adam with mine.

That's funny - I had never caught that before.

MB said...

And speaking of that podcast - wow - Kim makes out with random guys in bars?!?! Another detail I apparently missed on first listen!

PalmerEldritch said...

hear that, mb? that was the sound of hundreds of internet nerds booking trips to the T Dot to wait in bars for a chance to randomly make out with Kim.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Yeah, I laughed at that part too. Kim is a true player for life. Believe that.

gillian said...

Is it bad that until the movie came out, I had never heard of Transformers except in passing? I don't get it though-in two senses.

First, I don't get how I missed the whole Transformers thing. Maybe I was just that into Barbies?

Second, I'm not entirely sure I get the whole appeal. Cars that can turn into one thing? Just that with Barbie, she can change her outift in a hundred different ways, whereas Transformers only have one...

Are these thoughts just a little too overboard for this blogspot? Becuase I know you all love Transformers...but was just wondering if anyone else felt the same.

stephsmith said...

Hey, I liked Mortal Combat even enough to purchase it. Also liked Son of the Mask.

stephsmith said...

Gillian, you must have been born at the wrong time. If I don't get to see Transformers tomorrow I am going to be pissy.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Go see it Steph. Even if you have to go alone.

Jordan from the 206 said...

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PalmerEldritch said...

gillian, fast cars and big trucks and jets and trains and space ships. and they turn into giant robots. then they drive around real fast. and blow things up. while fighting each other with guns. and fists.

add to that that i was like 3 or something when i started watching. what little boy doesn't like exploding robots turning into trucks and driving around crashing into each other?

transformers is a pretty cool concept but on top of that is the nostalgia thing.

and Optimus Prime was like Abraham Lincoln and John Wayne rolled into one GIANT TRANSFORMING ROBOT!!!! how cool is that guy?

but, yes, it helps if you were into it when you were young.

transform and roll out!



p.s. voice of optimus prime == voice of eeyore.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Voice of Jazz = voice of Hong Kong Phooey

PalmerEldritch said...

jazz was one of my very favorite transformers

Ralph- said...

I know what the M stands for...and i will never tell!!

PalmerEldritch said...

judging by the pending arrival of "The Deuce," MB stands for Making Babies. bow chicka bow wow.

Jordan from the 206 said...

Speaking of making babies as well as crappy movies from earlier.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0330597/

And no, I have not seen this classic myself. Just saw it once on the shelf at blockbuster and almost fell over laughing.

trevor mcfur said...

Finally finished up with The Chin, and shipped it out today to Ralph in Anaheim, and hopefully on to Comic-Con.

I think that any discussion of the worst films of all time has to start and end with Batman & Robin. Two words: batsuit nipples. Well, at least they weren't Bai Ling's nipples.

Autobot name: Tracks Alert.
Decepticon: Frenzy Cracker (I like that one!).

trevor mcfur said...

I never knew that Scatman Crothers was actually a musician.

MB said...

lmao Palmer - would that not freak Kim out if suddenly all these Lost nerds start showing up at t-dot clubs. Kim, I hope I haven't just ruined your nightlife - lol

and I'm starting to think this kid's nickname may actually end up being "The Deuce" - I'm getting pretty used to that name.

Ralph - you have the goods on me - I am at your mercy - lol

Ghostwatch The Great said...

If it's post 180, do I get to do a BOMALKA?

Ghostwatch The Great said...

Following recent talk of the PS3 price cut - allow me to bring you up to date with the situation over here:

Thanks, Sony

So in short, for just £125 more than the new 80 gig version (Reuters say that's $254 - the total price of the UK machine being $863) we can get one with a 20 gig smaller hard drive, another controller and two games that you probably won't get to choose what they are.

Add this to the fact that, because of the use of some cheaper innards, the European PlayStation 3 is only mildly compatible with PlayStation and PS2 games instead of the fully compatible Japanese and US version and you've got a pretty pertinent reason why no fucker is buying the giant bastard.

I'd still quite like to win one, though. But not buy one.