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Just the way I have wanted to see kate :)
I keed I keed
You can tell a man posted that photo.
Does that look like sawyer behind her?
She wishes.
No that's the hispanic looking dude. Sawyer's outside the cage.
I'm really excited for this one, i think it could beat "every man for himself" as best episode of the fall season
i always try to find the funniest picture i can that would spark a discussion. like sawyer gagged, jack and his dad yelling at each other. this one is fucking hilarious!
You know your stuff Ralph! There's nothing quite like Kate giving you the "O" face to get the blog moving...
Correction Aimee there is nothing like Any Woman giving the "O" face :)
has anybody been reading the stuff on tvguide.com? they have a couple of interesting interviews with damon & carlton (yes, they finally said something worth talking about). it mentions on where the story should be heading when it comes back from break.
anyway, here's the link if anybody's interested.
http://tvguide.com/News-Views/Columnists/Ask-Ausiello/default.aspx
enjoy :)
Ausiello always has good Lost stuff; I was waiting for him to post this interview he mentioned last week; thanks for reminding me Ally!
OMG Hoodia Diet pills??? How did they know i was looking for those. Awesome
Again Lost dictates how other channels run their shows...
The network announced today that it has devised a scheduling pattern to broadcast "Jericho" in two distinct seasons. "Jericho" will conclude its "fall season" with a cliffhanger finale on Wednesday, Nov. 29 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) and come back in February with all original episodes for the remainder of the season.
I have to agree with everyone re Kate's picture. Still think Sawyers was the best so far though.
Looking forward to tonight, though I have a lousy cold.
Argghhh...to busy at work to write...this has taken 15 minutes as it is!
Jimmy.
I've lost 20 pounds in the last like, 2 months, and I didn't need no stinkin' Hoodia pills.
Sorry you're not feeling well Jimmy! I had a cold a few weeks ago, so you must've caught it from me.
if ben were here he would say something like, I hope you didnt lose those 20 pounds where i think you lost them.
but he isnt here. so i guess it will go unsaid.
I'm not sure what you meant by that, but um, the weight lost is no longer located anywhere on my body.
Clever reply, LittleRock :)
How sad is that Ralph? You have to make wise cracks for Ben because he's being all babyish and not hanging around right now.
just a couple more hours...
just a couple more seconds...
ok after that first scene, I think season 3 Jack is pretty awesome
Well now. I sure am glad I watched the 'episode not to be missed'.
Thirteen weeks seems to be waaay too long right now...
'Show Me The Money'?? Oh, Shatman...and to think, I'm related to this man.
Through marriage.
I am thoroughly enjoying this episode.
that episode was fucking amazing but I am so god damn angry right now, that was the best cliff hanger ever.
I really thought Ralph's prophecy was going to come true tonight after Jack saw Kate & Sawyer. I suppose it still can sort of, but not really, because he didn't bail on them.
So then, what about the pregnancy thing?
I have to admit, I was legitimately nervous for about 4 seconds, thinking there might actually be a chance that Sawyer would be shot - I was whispering no-no-no-no-no under my breath.
I have to watch it again to decide just how much I really liked it, but based on the first watch, it was effing great.
By the way...who the heck is Jacob?
casey i am going to have to disagree with you on that one. i think the cliff hanger is ruined because we know kate has no where to run to. Maybe if Sawyer didn't tell her there were two islands it would have been better. the only thing we can hope is that they hand over their H2Omoble and finally get to see what that is.
Ben Promises Jack to get him off "this" Island. And back to the Orginal. Clever Ben.
Kinda let down by this one. I will try not to pull a Ralph with every man for himself, but 13 weeks doesn't seem to far away. I think they might have planned it this way. Maybe they didn't want as many questions raised as the Season Finale. Maybe i need to watch it again but i was kinda let down by this one. I will marathon this pod this weekend and try to see the overall wisdom.
Great episode! Can't wait to hear some Dharmalars analysis on Friday and if I'm a really good boy, I might get some feedback from Craig and Ryan.
L8r
great episode, and i'm usually more impressed with island mythology stuff.
Season 3 Jack is defnitely the best Jack.
The way all of the others were willing to wheel and deal with Jack makes me think that Juliette's insurrection would not have been well received.
Once again i watched the show holding the antenna with my teeth, so i missed what Locke found inscribed on the Jesus stick, but i'm sure it was mindblowing, like finding out mid-episode that the Democrats took the Senate!!
Will the "Nine" make it through a whole season piggybacked on "Day Break?"
andrew.
Was Alex Ben's "daughter" so to say. He raised her.
Does he know she asked for him and was testing julet and because she lied figured she would kill him some how so he said "Everything Changes after this"
mike, I think because of the way jack is holding ben hostage they will get at least kate back to the main island, if sawyer didnt tell her there was no way out then she'd be scewed, I am excited to see how that situation plays out. also the look on toms face when jack floored that nurse dude was priceless.
That condition to get Jack "off this island" was funny, because it was so obviously flawed. Anyone who follows this show has enough intelligence to get that "oh I thought you meant THIS island?" clause. But that could also rest on whether or not Ben lives or dies.
My two cents theory: Ben raised Alex as a daughter, then told her the truth of her origin, hence the reason Alex went off about not believing anything they say. Darn rebellious teenagers. Could also explain why she helped Claire escape; she didn't want another child to go through what she just did. Alex could also have something to do with the Ben & Juliet "divorce".
Does anyone else really just dislike Kate lately? I've got to say it's nice that she doesn't want to leave anyone behind and wants to stay together, but to me, she just comes off as a petulant child. I'm just losing so much respect for her.
i think every kate flashback is predictable, she crys and runs away from someone or something
You know, I've just seen it here and to tell you the truth, I didn't like it that much. Good Jack stuff, but I feel cheated. We are still in the dark as to who the Others are? Dharma? We've got wanky exposition and such around burying Eko and the monster. As if Sayid, of all people after 75 days decides to say "So...what is this monster, John?"
More of Kates theme...fuck I'm starting to think it's over used now! I don't know...I think the 13 weeks break is a bit of a mistake. Just my thoughts and they may change...I've only just finished it.
Ta.
wonderfull
as far as i know Locke, Charlie and Kate are the only ones to actually see the black smoke monster.
i think sayid was just looking for clarification on what exactly he is up against.
i enjoyed the episode, but dont want to get into it until i watch it again. i will see if i can get you a show guys, but no promises.
why is ben such a baby?
also I agree with aimee, I thought jack was gunna go apeshit like ralph wanted
Kate has dealt with her issue of running. She loved Kevin and ran. She had the chance to run, but stayed with Sawyer. Does she really love Sawyer? She never said she did. What is the story Jack told Kate in the pilot? Jack suddenly decided to operate on Ben after he saw Kate and Sawyer. Why? Why did Juliet tell Ben that Alex didn't ask about him? Why would Ben expect Alex to ask about him? Did anyone get a good look at the pendent Kate's mother-in-law gave her?
JACK: Well, fear's sort of an odd thing. When I was in residency my first solo procedure was a spinal surgery on a 16 year old kid, a girl. And at the end, after 13 hours, I was closing her up and I, I accidentally ripped her dural sac, shredded the base of the spine where all the nerves come together, membrane as thin as tissue. And so it ripped open and the nerves just spilled out of her like angel hair pasta, spinal fluid flowing out of her and I: and the terror was just so crazy. So real. And I knew I had to deal with it. (He's crying). So I just made a choice. I'd let the fear in, let it take over, let it do its thing, but only for 5 seconds, that's all I was going to give it. So I started to count, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Then it was gone. I went back to work, sewed her up and she was fine.
The story Jack told Kate on the beach when she was sewing him up.
Ok, I've decided that Kate doesn't love Sawyer. She just gave him pity sex because she thought he was about to die.
So who is this Jacob that Picket mentioned and what was Jacob's list. Is Jacob the Man With The Eyepatch?
I really liked this episode, although looking around the forums, I see that a lot of people were disappointed. I don't know why. I thought it gripping.
Ok...so I'm not over Mr. Eko getting killed. In my protest I wasn't going to watch this week because I think it was the dumbest thing to do. But of course, I gave in.
Jack is the shit. I wasn't all that impressed with the "cliff hanger". But, Jack rocks! And as for Kate making her "choice", I'm not sure who she cares for more. She's one of those girls who wants her cake and to eat it too. I hate those kinda girls.
Sawyer - the island stud. Sorry Jack, but he has had both your girls.
I was hoping Sayid would have a bigger role in this episode, I know it was a Kate episode, but I wish they'd gone into more with him asking John about Eko's death/the Monster/etc.
Claire, what a waste! KILL HER!
Remember when Carlton and Damon said they were going back to how the show was in the 1st Season? Ya, I'm still waiting. It's just frustrating because I'm a big supporter of LOST, and I don't think the show is living up to it's potential. Who remember's Third Watch on NBC. Exactly... I'll expand in the Lost Diary. I may just be over my dissapointment for the loss of Mr. Eko and motivated enough to put something together this week.
~K
Death follwed sex for Shannon and Ana Lucia, remember?
It did for Jae. Kablamo.
So I just woke up and I'm still a little dissapointed in this "Episode not to be missed". It wasn't really a cliff hanger either...really?
Maybe I'm just bummed that there's no Lost next week, or the week after etc. I think the viewership is going to drop once more, to be honest. I've got the worst fuckiong cold though, so that's playing a part in my demeanour.
Kimberley...
I think I'm leaning more towards your camp this morning. Not sure where this show might be going...hmmm.
So I just woke up and I'm still a little dissapointed in this "Episode not to be missed". It wasn't really a cliff hanger either...really?
Maybe I'm just bummed that there's no Lost next week, or the week after etc. I think the viewership is going to drop once more, to be honest. I've got the worst fuckiong cold though, so that's playing a part in my demeanour.
Kimberley...
I think I'm leaning more towards your camp this morning. Not sure where this show might be going...hmmm.
I wasn't surprised when Sawyer didn't die. I was concerned at first but then realized that his story line is not resolved. But he does have the gettin-some curse on his head, twice over...but maybe it only works on women.
Why is Jack only concerned with saving Kate? That makes me like him less since he is willing to leave a compadre behind. We got plenty of crazy-Jack-faces this time. Awesome.
Andie
Andie, I wasn't surprised either for the same reasons you mentioned, but they did a really really good job with making the intensity of the moment so real, that for even 4 seconds I actually believed they might do it.
the episode seemed just ok to me. i will have to watch it again, b/c i feel like i wasn't really paying attention :/ i really liked the jack stuff though, before he just kinda seemed to just be there and not really do anything, but now he's getting better (actually likeable)
those are my thoughts for now...
Jimmy, you need a z-pack.
Z-Pack?
Is that cold medicine? Loked it up and it seems hard core.
It's alka seltsa cold and cough at present!
Thanks,
JP
The real cliffhanger is - will we get another MYOCoMwSAS or be stuck with just 1 new episode during this whole fraking "mini-season".
*JUST DROPPING IN TO LET EVERYONE KNOW, I AM NOT FEELING WELL, JIMMY IS NOT FEELING WELL AND BEN IS MIA. BECAUSE OF THIS, WE WILL NOT RECORD OUR SHOW UNTIL FRIDAY OR SATURDAY. SORRY FOR THE DELAY FOLKS, BUT THE SANTA ANA WINDS ARE KICKING MY ASS!
i hope everyone that is sick gets well soon. not just for the podcast but because it sucks to be sick.
GET WELL SOON, RALPH & JIMMY!
...and i hope ben appears soon.
this will make everyone feel beter
http://valfar.net/upload/imgs/MonorailCat.jpg
Nice cat, Mike :)
ralph, I don't think you have to be any hurry. You got 13 weeks. Hope you guys get to feeling better soon.
I was totally convinced that the huge worth-waiting-three-months cliffhanger was going to involve someone off island deciding they were heading to the island, or that we'd get some huge kick in the Lost mythology balls. Really didn't consider that it could have been a cliffhanger based on great drama and actual tangible character driven events. I'm pleasantly suprised that the show can still base it's success on such moments. It's nice to have boats turn up stealing children in the middle of the ocean, and Jack lookalikes answering phones, but for the show to still rely on the concern and care for charcters we've invested in for me is a big reassurance.
Aimee I didn't realise the whole 'sex leads to death' thing. Interesting... As for the love triangle, Kate never actually tells Sawyer that she loves him. Sawyer says the reason he didn't tell her about the '2 islands' thing was to give her hope, as he loves her. So couldn't the reason she doesn't tell Jack about it down the 'walkie' be because that's how she feels about him?
I would still like to have seen a little bit of Arctic action though, frankly. I am so pumped for February...
I'm so glad someone finally had the balls to ask about payday loans on this blog.
Ok, i've thought about the Jacob thing. You may think this tenuous, but it is designed mainly to make Ralph and Jimmy laugh, as laughter is the best medicine:
Jacob;
Jacob's Ladder;
You get a ladder in tights;
Robin Hood Men in Tights;
Men in tights are usually transvestites;
Eddie Izzard is a transvestite;
He is also a comedian;
Comedians tell jokes;
Jokes in French is 'plaisanteries';
Ruso is French;
She likes Sayid;
Sayid's real name is Naveen Andrews;
Naveen sounds a bit like 'Navy';
Seaman J Dylan Speed is now in the Navy writing codes and junk;
Seaman J Speed is Jacob.
End of.
Hey nice blog. I find it's subject matter interesting. Does anyone know where I can find a place to store my lottery winnings so I don't have to pay Lottery tax?
We don't pay any tax on betting whatsoever in the UK.
Try www.ladbrokes.com
Sorry Mrlerone, did that piss on your cornflakes? Did you want to tell us about your money making idea of paying the lottery tax for us, in exchange for our souls?
Yes, you well and truly 'shat in my chips' with that one.
Oh, by the way, if anyone else here is from the UK or other non-US countries, have they been downloading the new 'HD' versions that have been popping up on the old torrent sites? I think the added resolution might have contributed to it being the first episode where Kate actually does look as hot as her character is supposed to be. Or maybe high-quality AVI files just do something magical all on their own. I guess I've got 13 weeks to figure that out.
OK, I can see my picture now.
Well i'm glad Mrlerone, i wouldn't want you falling into the world of gambling mafioso without knowing that i have sussed you out!
And yes - i believe i can see some difference in the HD torrents that my friend downloads. But Kate has always been my favourite, even in the first series. I wish i'd met her before that jammie bastard Monahan, i really feel i would have had a shot! No, really!
Charlie is my favourite character though, as I relate to him. I'm not sure if it's the being rejected by girls who just seem to want 'friends', the being English, or the being a heroin addict that I see most of the similarities in though.
I've never liked Kate. Aside from the s01e02 revelation that she was a criminal I've honestly not been surprised or interested in anything she's ever done in the show. She seems to perpetuate the stereotype of women in TV shows and movies who need no personality or descerning features, just plain good looks in order to bewitch and entice the male cast members. I know the show is based on assumptions about various personality types, and that there is 'alpha' this and whatnot, but she's just so boring and un-noticable.
Rant over. I think that Sun is making a late entry in the Hot Lost Girls competition.
StephSmith,
We can all see your pic. Does your printer always churn paper out like that? :)
Welcome.
Nice to see lots of new faces here. I watched it again, liked it a bit morte, bt still would have preffered at least one Island question clarified. Oh well...
Tim,
Thanks for the humor, Sir. Dominic couldn't hold a candle to either of us, by the way.
i said it a long time ago, that Ed Helms would make a great villain for Dwight and his affection towards michael scott.
i dont like the new girl. but i dont mind her being put in the office.
everytime i see roy, i go crazy. i always forget about roy and then he pops up at pam happiest moment and it frustrates me so much.
i sound like an old lady talking about soap operas. oh well fuck it.
ok i saw the episode again... i liked it better this time, i seriously was not paying attention the first time i saw it, because i had missed some stuff.
jack is a badass, i like him a lot better this way - he's not boring of whiny anymore.
i don't think Ed Helms is going to be on the show any more. He was only signed for about 6 episodes and i haven't heard about an extended contract, but i am wrong a lot.
Haven't been posting a lot because video games have taken over my life with Guitar Hero 2 and Gears of War it doesn't look like a paper will be done this weekend :)
Ralph slap that little bitch around and put out another podcast!
Jay and jack release two high quality, great content and hilarious podcasts every week.
Hey, anonymous. How about sponsoring your favorite podcasts with some cash so they don't have to worry about shoehorning a recording session into a busy week of work, girlfriends, boyfriends, spouses, and generally having a life without getting paid to do so. It's a hobby for us too.
Anonymous - then go post at the jay and jack board. I am sure calling people names will get a podcast faster. Its a good theory. Tell me how it goes. I am dying to find out.
Hey Scott and Steve, lick my nuts!
did i say scott and steve, i meant Anonymous!
I'm just blown away he thinks we are a "cockteaze"!
Like I said, I think it's a little silly for you to commit to doing a podcast, build up a great fan base like you have, and then all of a sudden drop the ball and leave your fans hanging. If you weren't going to be in it for the long run, do the proper thing and officially cancel yourselves. Don't leave your fans guessing when you'll have a new podcast out, or only put out episodes sporadically. So yeah - what you're doing now is cockteasing. If you don't want to do the podcast then don't. But dont make a big fucking deal about Myokom w SAS coming back like you did and not even have podcasts regularly.
I'm not making a personal attack on anyone by any means, despite you all thinking that's what I'm here for. I'm speaking as a frustrated fan of Myokom w/SAS who just wants to be entertained by that great, funny podcast again.
Hi Ralph-,
hope you feel better soon! Good luck with the recording. I am looking forward to your next podcast. :)
C.
Anonymous,
Give it a rest. If it bothers you so much, then just delete your subscription, and go away. The loyal fans understand that this is not a job, this is a hobby for our podcast hosts, and the obligations they may have in their lives might prevent them from being able to record from time to time. Maybe even for extended periods of time. Find another hobby if this bothers you so much.
We might jokingly whine from time to time ourselves, but we still at least understand where they're coming from. You're being completely ridiculous, and if I knew where you were, I'd punch you in the head and tell you to stop being a bitch.
Don't say you're not making a personal attack on anyone, of course you are, dumbass.
There's nothing wrong with being a frustrated fan, but if put yourself in Craig or Ralph's shoes for a day and understand what goes into a podcast and I'll bet you'd stop this attack.
i spend 15 hours a week working on this podcast. and i get these angry messages. it is hard to deal with it because my 'love language' is that of understanding and joy.
at any rate, it isnt ben.
how about understanding that if i wanted to i would stop putting the podcast out all together. this is not a job. if it were a job then i would be getting something in return. what do i get from the fans of the podcast? i will tell you what i get. not a whole lot.
i am not sure what you think our fan base is, but it isnt that many. so why dont you relax, come up with your own theories and talk to your other anonymous friends and play "podcasts" at home in your room. i hear that bananas make great pretend microphones.
i am done with this conversation. drop me a line when someone has something interesting to say.
lame.
ps- i will continue to poke my head in this thread to see the shit storm continue. keep up the good work guys!
... i just kidding!
by the way, true fans give me friendship and happiness.
I think anonymous is actually that dude from NZ. What a dag?
But don't worry anonymous whoever you might really be...I'll drag myself out of my vicodin induced haze and get something out for you tonight, with any luck. Don't want to keep you waiting. The flu'ish voice might be a laugh.
Actually...why don't you write to Damon and Carlton about keeping fans waiting? They actually get paid a ton of money to keep the likes of you and us frustrated. Me...I'm still saving up for a real microphone, but not to worry.
I'll throw in a dedication to you too (a true fan). Cheers,
btw. Ralph...
What do you mean small fanbase...it's HUGE, fucker!
i figured something out. Anonymous is right. Fuck scott and steve. They tricked us.
I believe a Coup d'état is in order. Bring the power to the people!!!!
I think you all are sick in the head. And I'm pretty sure that Anonymous is actually Cliff.
Hey Ralph, I hope you feel better soon. Looking forward to your podcast :)
He should start a new podcast called "Anonymously Speaking".
How about "Generally Sucking". Oh snap!
that was lame.
Enough with the drama, Jeez.
Sawyer's a leftey.
Aimee and Chelsea get 5 SaS points. Congrads.
So, I watched Cool Hand Luke last night for the first time in forever. Alot of things reminded me of EMFH. The prison being located in Florida, working for no reason to the point of exhaustion, "Boss", and boxing.
But who is hotter? Sawyer or Luke?
im to lazy to sign in right now, i was wondering, what indeed was the orginal comment made by the great cliff J ravenscraft on scott and steve. I know it was somthing about being stoners but i cant remember the exact details. God, that guy whines more then his little baby...
oh yeah and other anonymos dude, stop bitching...
Hi everyone.
Hello from the UK. As a matter of fact, hurrying to get a podcast out now would be a little pointless, as we've got til Feb until there's another episode. I'm Ok about waiting longer.
Wasn't it something about some stoners that couldn't afford another mic? Sorry to be shit stirrer.
If I remember it correctly it was something very mild. Someone on GS said something that Cliff thought was a bit racy and he said he might have to mark the podcast as explicit. He just mentioned in passing that he didn't know how Scott and Steve got away with the stuff they did. (By which he meant got away with it without labelling the podcast as explicit.) I never understood the controversy because Scott and Steve did decide to go with an explicit label shortly after that.
GS gets on my nerves and I am not going to be listening to it anymore but I have listened to enough of it to say that I am not sure that Cliff knows what a stoner is, or would be able to identify one if he tripped over him.
Also, if Ben doesn't show up for Thursday's podcast I think Cliff loses his title as "most overly sensitive Lost podcaster."
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