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196 comments:
First!
first is the worst!
second is the best!
For the record, my random prescription drug is Crunkajen® - an enormous red nasal spray for the treatment of weight loss, and my random disease is Medication-Induced Catatonic Movement Syndrome (MICMS) - drug-induced toxic side effects impacting physiology and neurology characterized by an extreme inability to stay awake when engaged in physical movement.
Hey Aimee! Nice to see ya stranger. You ready for tonight?
Hopefully I'm not third. lol.
Yes! Woo hoo! Thanks Aimee. You get the hairy chest and not me.
I am so ready for tonight! I woke up this morning, and said to myself, "today is going to be a good day!" I even wore two of my Lost pins, as opposed to the usual one that I wear on Lostnesdays. :)
So is ABC replaying that season recap @ 8 before the finale? Somebody mentioned that to me earlier today, but I wasn't sure.
"an extreme inability to stay awake when engaged in physical movement?"
sexy.
aimee, how's the hair? is it excited for the show tonight?
I'm actually working during most of the day, as opposed to slacking off most of the day, which is why I've been absent from the blogspot lately. Either it's been quite busy, or I've been more motivated.
They're starting the Lost recap show at 7, then the finale at 8 (Central time).
The hair is doing well, and getting quite long! She is very excited about tonight, although a little tired, because it was extra sweaty in the gym, since there was someone else in there (usually it's just me, so it doesn't get that hot in there). That sounds totally dirty, but it's not. It's a small room, so the body heat really bottles up. Nevermind, this was supposed to be about my hair. So my hair got sweatier than it normally does, okay? But the hair is excited about Lost. Always.
is it still uber fashionable from the straightening? damnit, aimee, we need hair updates.
what are your predictions, buddy? thumb through the previous thread for all of ours.
I have envisioned Little Rock turning into a 24-esque Los Angeles and Aimee playing the role of Jack Bauer. That is the reason for Aimee's absence in my head at least.
"THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO EXPLODE!"
closing minutes of tonight's finale?
"Survivors? Of Flight 815?"
/ok, not really
snakes in a mailbox, on a plane! coming this summer!
Here's an appropriate name generator for tonight, since it's all about war!
Stealth Operative Name Generator: Click Here
- Silver Deathstrike
That's funny Jordan that while you were comparing me to Jack Bauer, I was typing up a name generator for Stealth Operatives.
I mean, whatever Jordan. You don't know what you're talking about.
holli found a military operation name generator. i dont remember where it is. i did the creepy stalker name generator.
im working on photoshoping charlies greatest hits to say frodo instead of liam
Nice.
I'm slowly making my way down the previous threads to try and catch up.
I'm completely spoiler free this week, the only preview I've watched was whatever they showed us after last week's episode, and I can't even remember that. I've been completely sheltered, and I'm freaking excited as hell.
As far as death count predictions, since we know there will be multiples, I'm feeling like Juliet, Pryce, and Bernard are likely candidates. I give Jack 6 to 1 odds, and Charlie I'm thinking I'll give 3 to 1 odds.
Lindeluse- I love to hate them.
-Feline Slither
Aha! I knew it!
"DROP THE GUN AND BACK AWAY FROM THE GIRL!"
Somebody clear this up for me. So the central time people, you guys watch at the same time as east coast? Is that was the whole 9/8 central crap always means?
my secret operative name is DARK WRAITH.
that's a SciFi Channel movie of the week waiting to happen.
its not as great as it could be, but its good for a laugh. its my new desktop background.
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w187/mt_1337/lotr.jpg
25 mins!!!!!
my name sounds like a bit of an innuendo...
Omega Striker
How I understand it, there are two satillites- one for eastern/central and one for mountain/pacific. The show is aired at two different times. Now, what Hansome Jack was asking about getting the Canadian airing on their satillite so they can record earlier and get to bed? I'm not sure of.
I was watching youtube clips the other day of season one behind the scenes. The cast is singing together and talking about how much they are like family. I get the feeling their feelings have changed since then. I think living in paradise has gotten old to them.
calm down malcolm. simmer now.
huh? what is lost boy mean?
*what does lost boy mean?
ok, i think i'm about to commence radio silence.
here's hoping LOST's finale isn't a letdown like some other series i know. :p
I WANT THESE *********** SNAKES OFF OF MY ********** MAILBOX!
/hoping for a Juliet/Kate Rematch in the Jungle
my bets are on juliet.
I know it's early, but Palmer wins the thread!
Me too Palmer. Enjoy everybody. I'll check in tonight with the west coast crew around 11 pacific. Hope to see some of you here! GO LOST!
One last Aimee Bauer in L.R. quote:
"STOP OR I'LL SHOOT YOU RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW!"
10 mins!!!! i think i just shit myself. well, im gonna go change my pants, and then watch lost. ill be back in an hour or so...
malcom. calm down buddy.
Just dropping by to say prepare for a Jack-rant at some point in the future no matter what else happens in the next 52 minutes! How awesome is this. I hope Tim Kring is taking notes.
Holli
i would just like to say to what I have seen so far...holy shit.
WE HAVE TO GO BACK!!!!
and watch that episode again. it was great.
what just happened?!
Damn that rattlesnake.
seriously though...what the fuck
The pop I just heard was my mind being FUCKING BLOWN.
I have no idea what I just watched. And we have to wait until Feb 08 for more Lost!? Not fair.
what the fucks
Stupid Charlie. He would have been fine if he had just gone out of the room and gotten some SCUBA gear on with Desmond. The station would only fill up just past the busted window. Once the water level got past the opening, it would still hold air above that level and they could just swim out. Take a bucket upside down underwater in a pool and poke a hole in the side. Same thing. It would only fill all the way up if Cyclops had busted a hole in the top.
As for the rest of the show... WTF? 'Heroes' already used the whole "show a possible future and then go back and not have the show turn out like that anyway" gimmick.
fucken febuary won't come soon enough
Wow. Who's funeral? Who is Kate going home to? Lindeluse keeping their options open?
Ok well I'll be the first to take a stab at it.
They made it off the Island. However after they got back Jack "lost" his way (no surprise there) and became addicted to oxycotin and alcohol. Somehow he and Kate had a falling out and she's now with some one else (who Jack knows.)
Some one died who Kate had no feelings for. I'm assuming it was Sawyer - who else is that unpopular? So next season is going to feature some people still on the Island (e.g. Locke etc) and apparently some people trying to get back.
Since it probably wasn't Walt who got Locke out of the pit, I will assume it was either Jacob or the Smokemonster. Or both.
There were some great moments in this episode, but upon my first reactions, I noticed several parts where I felt guity for UNDER-reacting, because I knew shit wasn't what they were trying to make us believe - like the three shots heard over the radio. I wanted to cry, and I wanted to be sad and think that MAYBE Jin, Sayid, and Bernard would be dead, but I knew in my head that wasn't humanly possibly; even for Lost finale shock value. So I just sat there when it happened, thinking, "oh, three gunshots. yeah, they're not dead."
And could Walt have looked ANY older? LOL.
heheheheheheheh. that wasn't quite a rattlesnake in a mailbox. but it was cool.
now, how the heck did this happen? when in the future is this? are we flashing forward to the end of the show? to six episodes from now?
but once they showed Jack with maps, it was only a matter of who from the Island Jack was calling.
and boy howdy did jack get depressed once he was back to the real world. he's prolly upset about his back-to-normal sperm count. poor guy.
Walt must be 6'4". His voice sounded so mechanically altered.
I think Walt is like 24 or 25 now, right?
I must say that I figured that it was a flash forward, half way into the show
But I have to say that was quiet the mind-fuck
oh! isn't Bernard's last name Nadler? like the guy doing the back surgery on the accident victim? Dr. Jerry Nadler? any connection or just the last name of someone Cuseloff went to high school with?
I don't know how the episode feels on the hole yet; it has to simmer overnight for me to really think about it some more. My initial reactions often differ once I let the episode process through my brain a little more.
That wig/beard master has done it again too.
Yeah, why did the Others call Jin and Sayid by their last names but not Bernard?
I think Hurley coming down the beach in the V.W. Van did it enough for me to say that this was amazing!
so heres my top 10 questions list
10. who was the musician that coded the looking glass?
9. is that walt? if so, how did he get to the island?
8. whose funeral did jack attend?
7. who was the person kate referred to as him? (she said something like "he will wonder where i've been")
6. why did jack want to go back?
5. what is more awesome than hurley running over ryan with the dharma bus?
4. who is naomi working for?
3. what will happen when naomis people get to the island?
2. will they get rescued? if so, by who? (penny, naomi's people, or someone else?)
1. what the fuck is going on on this show?
any other suggestions? if you have any ideas for answers, please post it.
That dude looked really young to be a freaking Chief of Surgery. And for a hospital staff, they suck at spotting tweaked out junkies.
steph-
I'm just guessing that because the others haven't dealt with Bernard, that they didn't really know who he was. I'm just guessing
What confused the shit out of me was, didn't Jack say "go find my father! if i'm half as drunk as he is, you can fire me!" Umm, if this is a flash forward...isn't he supposed to be dead?
oh, belated KABLAMO!
and was anyone expecting Jack at the very end to turn to the camera and say "RAZZLE DAZZLE, BITCHES?!"
Was it really a flash foward? Or were the island scenes a flashback and were the UnaJack scenes the present?
And what about this? "Go get my father!" and "This perscription was written by Christian Shepard!"
I can just say, no matter what happens, I'm just glad to see Ben lose.
aimee, the dude's higher than a Smiley Face Hot Air Balloon. if he forgets his dad's dead, no biggie.
KABLAMO!
Can't wait to hear Kim and Aimee's reation to Sayid's Leathal Weapon move on that Other.
You need to "know how it feels on the hole?" That's what she said! Booyah!
They could go so many directions with this next season, but if Desmond just "fixes it" some how half way through season 4 and then we start back at this point I will be most dissappointed. But I think they'll spend the beginning of the episode showing how everyone changed.
One of the most confusing things to me is: if the boat wasn't from Penny, then why would Naomi lie? If it was to do as Ben said, as in "kill everyone on the Island," then why are Jack and Kate still alive.
Also, when he saw some one in the newspaper in the beginning of the show, did anyone catch what that was? I had assumed it was his ex at the time, but perhaps it was Juliett? Kate?
how sweet was it when Jack was beating the everliving hell out of Ben Workman? god, that felt good.
Yeah, um, that's why I spelled it "hole"!
I meant reaction.
I thought the reference to Christian was just to further confuse the audience. Maybe not.
aimee-
Maybe Jack was just too drunk to think about his father being dead. He did try to get those pills with his father's name, but drop the subject when she tried to contact them. B-Jack has become very off the edge in the future, or now, I'm guessing that these flash forwards are taking place in present time. Just guessing
Line of the night:
Rose: "Jack, if you say 'Live together die alone I'm gonna punch you in the face'".
And the Hurleybus scene was great! I just wish that it had been playing "Road to Shambala" as it was running over those stinkin' Others.
yeah, the Dad reference was a red herring explained by his junkiosity.
OR THE DUDE CAME BACK FROM THE DEAD AND WORE A GREEN SHIRT AND A BROWN WIG AND WAS WITH THE FUSIES LIKE KIM WAS SAYING IN THE LAST PODCAST!!!!
:p
Steph, regarding Sayid's Lethal Weapon maneuver, I used have these killer legs back in the day, and I could sooo do that. Only I would try to...um, nevermind, Ralph knows the story. It's a James Bond thing.
Maybe Christian is actually alive, in the future, or dead...undead. The chief of surgery did look at him funny when he said go get my father. So I don't know
Steph, you're probably right, and it is meant to confuse us. We have to have something to speculate on during the next 8 months.
and Patchy pissed me off. the dude better be dead this time. third time's the charm, right?!
Christian could be undead, in post-Lost time. Season 7 was supposed to be the zombie season, but ABC announced the end of Lost would be season 6. Those sneaky bastards.
Yeah, Vincent, I foresee Desmond going back to the oar-to-the-head and changing the past.
Dang, how good did Wet Desmond look?
Fucking Patchy ... that motherfucker. When I saw that bastard swimming out there with that hand grenade ... if he's not dead this time, I'm gonna fly to Hawaii and kill him myself.
I think we're forgetting the most important part of the episode. Jack and Juliet kiss!! Honestly, the whole love quadrangle thing was a little tiresome, but the rest of the episode made up for it.
Jack definately had a RAZR or a CRZR (sorry I don't know which), which, if I'm not mistaken were produced very recently, indication the flash forward takes place relatively close to 2007.
Maybe patchy is a cat, his eye scar was his first death, then the barrier, then the arrow, now the grenade. He's got 5 more lives to go, I think he might be here for a while.
yeah it was a CRZR
colin, i actually said to my spoiler reading girlfriend "boy, that's a high tech looking phone for 2003 or 2004." she didn't say a thing and she had known about the Flashforward for a week already. that's a good girl!
jack kisses juliet and tells kate that he loves her and sawyer acts like a dick to kate. let's hope there's not more Jakatwyiet Quadrangling in our future!
here are the answers to my questions, or at least what i think.
10. who was the musician that coded the looking glass?
someone important.
9. is that walt? if so, how did he get to the island?
yes. no fucking clue.
8. whose funeral did jack attend?
i say locke. he had nobody to love him, and him and jack werent quite friends.
7. who was the person kate referred to as him? (she said something like "he will wonder where i've been") im guessing sawyer. she referred to him as "he" inferring that jack knew him
6. why did jack want to go back? he was a leader, and a hero on the island. he was a nobody off the island.
5. what is more awesome than hurley running over ryan with the dharma bus?
nothing. absolutely nothing.
4. who is naomi working for? no clue, but as long as it isnt hanso, im happy. i dont want them to use the lost experience stuff.
3. what will happen when naomis people get to the island? im guessing that they all get rescued, and they kill the others.
2. will they get rescued? if so, by who? (penny, naomi's people, or someone else?) by my last statement, i guess naomis people, but i hope its penny, or someone else.
1. what the fuck is going on on this show?
no fucking clue. and i love it.
wow...
I think I may be onto something here
The Christian Shepherd stuff doesn't fit. There is a key here to what is going on. Did the past get changed for everyone on the island when the key was turned. So when the survivors get back to the real world, their lives have changed in some ways from what they left. Maybe Desmond is the only one who could witness his changes to his past.
loved the episode by the way
Funeral must have been Ben's. Jack realized Ben was right. Sawyer has to be the person Kate was talking about at the end.
my only problem with it being ben or locke is that they both would rather die on the island than go back to the rest of the world.
sorry, i believe the official spelling is Jakatwyiet. right?
I'm going to put my vote down as Sawyer being in the casket. Only reason why I say this is because Jack said the he thought that Kate would have been there. I think the "Him" that Kate was talking about will be someone to appear later.
Well, at least we know Jack and Kate live through the series. Right?
-solid finale.
- i thought it was a flash forward pretty early on too but they threw me off when Jack got drunk on the job and told the other doctor to go upstairs and see if his father was more drunk.
-typing that out, i think i just figured out he making a sly reference to Heaven.
-iwasteela- good comment, i was bugged by Charlie's death scene too,definitely avoidable. Still, i loved the Charlie/Desmond subplot.
-Mikhail. dude is awesome and he's not going away.
-i was going to make some suggestions about whose funeral it could be, but then i remembered we have until 2008, so nobody is going to remember to send me my prize when i'm right.
andrew.
Don't forget too, Jack cried when he saw the newspaper. So it would be someone who he had SOME kind of emotional attachment to.
Juliet? Maybe, anyone
If they start messing with timelines I may have to stop watching. Not only does it get confusing but the paradoxes are just too much to take.
I don't have a huge problem with Desmond's changing of the past effecting others (and ignoring that he time travels by being hit on the head) but then it ruins future events (which are really past events) thereby changing the nature of the show. For instance, if Jack's father is alive, then what is would Jack being doing in Australia? Why would he have gotten on the plane? I think the only explanation for him mentioning his father is the drugs and alcohol. Even if Christian some how turned out to be alive through some Island miracle, would he really go back to his job as a drunk physician?
Sorry if your setup was obvious Aimee A.K.A. Xena Onatopp, but I'm new here. Forgive me for being slow.
aimee, jack cries all the time. over spilt milk, even. and there's no use doing that.
jack could of been crying because it reminded him of his glorious JizzIsland days and what a bad move it was to ever leave.
I'm not going to stick to any of my initial theories until I have at least...3 years to simmer on it.
Kablammo
Kablamo!
Damn you!
Damn you!
HoORAY I win
Go back and look at the coffin. It was a fairly small. More a Ben size than a Sawyer size. If they had Ben captive, he could have been taken away against his will.
simultaneous kablammos.
that's befitting of a season finale.
Maybe it was Walt. Or maybe they found Charlie's body. They're both hobbit-sized.
if the dead person was juliet, her sister and julian would come and see her, plus, they would probably keep in touch.
vincent the dog's funeral?
That might explain why he cried. Because Charlie was the reason they all got off the island.
LOL. Vincent.
Okay, it's late enough for me now; I'll catch up with everyone tomorrow, when there are 4,815 posts on this thread.
If it was Vincent's funeral, than old smoky would be there
aimee, never leave the blogspot again. we're a wreck without you.
wait... where's kim!?
That was a sweet helicopter shot when they got to the radio tower. If I remember correctly, that's the second one they've EVER done. The first one had to do with the raft.
Well Kim went to LA, cause since Jack is in present time, she can go see him. Even with the whole beard and crazy pill popping drinker he is.
im gonna leave. ill be back in an hour probably, when i realize i cant sleep after the finale.
I think it was Locke's funeral. Kate seemed like she hated him, and UnaJack could have been crying because it reminded him of the island and what he left behind. Damn he was a mess ... they did a great job making him look like a narc-addicted junkie.
And if Desmond hadn't told Charlie that he was gonna die there, would Charlie have run out and closed the door behind him instead of locking himself inside?
I agree with Vincent in Virginia ... the time travel/alternate reality things really changes the nature of the show, and opens up a million paradoxes. If they're heading that road, I really hope they know that they're doing.
Next year ... does the show open on the island or in the future?
-Name the radio tower "hatch": my suggestion: The Venus Flytrap
-reuiniting with your 16-year-estranged daughter and asking "will you help me tie him up?" priceless
-If all of the losties got golden tickets, which one inherited the chocolate factory?
-Who is Will Traveler and just how many cars does ABC think i can buy?
-Between Ryan and Tom, which one decided to shoot the sand? Ryan was obviously a son-of-a-bitch and gungho on killing, but wasn't Tom the one arguing that they should have just shot the 3.
andrew.
Hurley would win the Chocolate Factory, because he is good at heart. However, he will most likely eat the majority of the chocolate, placing them on Chapter 12 Bankrupcy.
Ben most likely told Tom and Ryan to pretend to shoot, in order to persuade Jack into giving him the radio.
good call JonJon. don't know when he would have told them, but that makes the most sense.
andrew.
That had to be, by far, the best fucking two hours of tv I've ever sat though. And I'll also say that I think it was made better by staying relatively spoiler-free.
Hey, somebody should call / text Ralph in about an hour and tell him that Locke is gonna shoot Jack. ok, not really.
And you know what? Why the FUCK can't Ben just be honest with people? Maybe if he was honest with the 815 survivors from the beginning, some of them would have wanted to stay on the paaradise island. But NOOOO, instead he's got to be all secretive and make everyone afraid to be there when apparently it's a helluva lot better than being back in the "real" world.
~Bone
The funeral was in a African-American part of town which leads me to believe that it was a black person. The only black person on this show whose funeral would be empty is Michal. This explains Kate's disbelief that Jack would go after Michael betrayed them.
Drive-by post b/c, well, you all saw it. The music was fantastic tonight. I especially liked the little variation they did when the trekkers first met up with Ben and Alex. Jimmy, take your time and do it right man. We've got 8 months.
Holli
But why would Jack be emotional about Michael dying?
Who was it that died, that pushed Jack over the edge to suicide.
Another Kablamo from tonight's episode is that future Kate doesn't get thrown in jail when she gets off the island! Maybe that's why she didn't want to show up at a public funeral?
Jason in Mississippi
On the touchy subject of spoilers, TPTB need to find out who the 'mole' is in their operation. I don't mind a few spoilers, but for some reason this week only I read deeply into DarkUFO's spoiler section and the fucker had the info correct scene for scene. I still enjoyed the episode, but something needs to be done about complete episode spoilers. Like I said earlier in the week, "They got some 'splaining to do."
How bad-ass was fucking Sawyer tonight? (rhetorical question)
I loved it when he freaking shot Tom after Tom surrendered. "I didn't believe him". Beautiful.
Gee Wrigley, I felt like Sawyer was a little off his game. No nicknames, not even Freckles. The nicknames were left to Naomi (what a shit way to die) and Charlie, and then he killed Tom instead of Juliet. So frankly I'm mad at Sawyer. But if he gets the consolation prize of smoking hot Kate, more power to him.
Holli
I thought Hurley was The most Bad Ass Tonight Maybee hurley used to be a busdriver in Miami he was the one who hit Juliettes hubby
Kris
Lostboys Podcast
Holy shiza, I LOVED THAT EPISODE!!! Loved every moment! Loved the awesome flash forward, crazy, pill popping Jack, fragged out Sawyer, Charlie's death scene (sorry, I was a fan. I thought it was good), and Hurley is the shit! Man...I need to digest this... Everyone on the board has said just about everything I'm thinking so far. I can't wait to read on what people will be speculating on this summer/fall. I do think that the person Kate was referring to was Sawyer, and the person in the casket was Ben. Somehow, in this version of reality, Jack and Ben form a bond. And Desmond's gonna fix some shit. Yeah, damn classic episode!
Was on-Island Jack having those flashes? In the past I've assumed that we see the flashbacks as a way to inform the on-Island action almost as if the character was seeing them at the same time as well. For example, Charlie saw the "flashes" as he wrote out his Greatest Hits list. Was on-Island Jack seeing these flashes? Are they all like Desmond? Does it matter if the episode starts with flashes instead of on-Island?
Holli
HOLY CRAP!
I don't know what to say!
What an episode!
i cant believe that i figured out that they were gonna be rescued...this morning. wow.
So will they still be on the island come february?! or will it be post-jizz island?!
Oh I hope Lost won't become The Fountain, having past/present/future stories all mixed together. It will be very, very confusing.
RALPH'S BRAIN "hey, did they have razor cell phones back in 04?"
FROM THE PEN OF DAMON AND CARLTON "It's not 2004 you fucking knucklehead"
RALPH'S BRAIN "dammit! i knew they were gonna get rescued"
RALPH'S MOUTH "Why the fuck didnt you say something earlier?"
RALPH'S BRAIN "Cause i am a fucking Knuckle head"
Does ALL the flashback actually take place AFTER the island story?
that cant be...right? Hurley won the lottery before the plane crashed on the island. cause he tells charlie that he is already a millionaire.
I am glad i didnt ask jorge if they get rescued. that would have opened up a BIG can of worms. he probably would have asked me to cut it out of the show.
GOOD. GOOD stuff.
Who is Naomi?
If Penny did not pick them up, then who?
Who Died in the Flash Forward?
Where is Desmond?
WHAT THE FUCK, LOST?
So do you think it is possible that any of the flashbacks in the past, actually happened in the future?
"The funeral was in a African-American part of town which leads me to believe that it was a black person. The only black person on this show whose funeral would be empty is Michal. This explains Kate's disbelief that Jack would go after Michael betrayed them."
Originally posted by Zachary
Took the words out of my mouth! good call man
Hey jonjon, if the flashbacks were actually flashforwards, how much fun would it be to go back and analyze every episode again? sure ppl are gonna shoot holes thru that but it's a nice theory, man
the show will now take place now, with flashbacks that take place on the island.
Half way through the series and now we flip flop the routine.
Walt would have been at the funeral. unless he is still on the island.
well I know that not all the flashbacks are flash forwards, but what if there was a couple out there that told us something, but we just never picked up on it.
Oh and someone asked why Jack would cry for michael's death. Let's play devil's advocate for a second and SAY that was walt, in the flesh, let's then assume Michael isn't far behind. WHat if sometime in the next 3 seasons, Michael redeems himself in some way that benefits all the losties. Surely, all of them won't be forgiving (kate) but some will (jack).
In the end, whoever died, they are pretty important publicly, because if I'm not mistaken, Jack pulled that story from the FRONT PAGE.
I like your theory Ralph, it is a flip-flop
Dudes, that was more a movie than any one episode of tv I have ever watched.
First off let me say that I flat out loved this episode. It was awesome. Every single moment of it had me totally on the edge of my seat.
But I will also say that I agree with Aimee. Nothing regarding not liking "this" episode mind you. But if that scene with Jack and Kate is how Lost ends, that would kinda suck.
Totally agree with Holli. The treker music was awesome. I loved it.
The Hurleybus scene just might have been the best ever on the show. If not, one of the most exciting for sure. I actually jumped off my couch.
Damn you patchy!! (shakes first)
We're going to have lots to talk about tomorrow. And for the summer for that matter.
Hey Ralph, maybe Walt doesn't make it out alive.
And for the ppl complaining that Walt looked older, i honestly could NOT give a shit how old he looks, if i can suspend belief about Jacob and Smoke Monsters, I can give Walt a pass. I literally jumped out of bed, jumped, pumped my fist in the air and yelled when i saw Walt. love it!
Love that flip-flop theory
how the fuck do they explain the fake crash in the bottom of the ocean? OK, i am done, i need to watch it again.....please someone knock me out and wake me up in February.
Whoever is on that Freighter is behind the Staged fake cover up crash (hanso foundation right? or is it widmore?)
1. I'm wondering why the Others are going to "The Temple". What is the "Temple"? These questions I hope are to be solved soon.
2. I think it was totally obvious that it was a flash forward, when Jack was in his apartment and all those maps of the ocean and islands where laying all around the flood.
I meant floor
Well, Boone did not appear as Locke remembered him in Further Instructions. So why couldnt walt be older?
The only thing i questioned was His phone, that was the obvious one. I honestly didn't see any maps or anything else that indicated the present. Jack becoming a Loser/junkie/alchie and him and kate (and sawyer?) barely being on speaking terms is fuckin TRAGIC yo.
i see why he wants to go back. best 3 months of his life, he had it all, and can we then assume Juliet dies before gettin off island, since she's not in jack's present life? Maybe has something to do with that ben was saying, about the people on the boat being there to kill all island inhabitants. Sure atleast two of the losties are still alive, but....thinking out loud.
"Jack, if you say live together die alone one more time, I'm gonna punch you in the face." - Rose.
LOL!
trusay, ralph
that was funny, kim. I agree with Aimee though, I didn't really flinch when those 3 shots went off, it never sank in. As far as Charlie being dead, Man that was FUCKED up. =( poor bastard...
If Penny didn't send the boat, why the hell was she on that TV? I don't get it.
Temple could = another station.
For the flip-flop theory, does this mean that we won't have anymore pre-crash flashbacks? If so, then we won't ever find out anything about Richard, or Ben's full story with Annie, or why Desmond was in Army Jail.
I guess it has to do with those portuguese blokes who picked up the signal after the emp blast, they directed her to call that specific place or whatever. Whoever Naomi's with did their homework. It's definitely Widmore then, Her father'd know she hired portugese fellows, hence him sending Naomi in with a picture of des and pen, + Argos 22
That is a really good question Morgan, why at that moment was Penny on the computer screen?
Jonjon, youve oficially stumped me, i dont know if i'll be able to sleep tonight.
WAIT!!!
Jack told that other doctor in the flash forward to call his father and see if he is more drunk than i am!
WHAT?!?
lol @ ralph
you're letting cuselof get in your head, man!
Did Naomi say she worked for "Penny Widmore", or just for "Widmore"? If it's the Widmore company then she could be working for Penny's Dad, and she was sent to kill Desmond so Penny would STOP looking for Des and get on with her life.
I can swear she explicitly said Penelope Widmore, hence Desmond's grin (whom I believe Aimee referenced, right before she "fucking melted")........end quote.
Right on...then I'm offically stumped
Well it's goodnight for me then.
Scentless Apprentice!
Maybe Penny's got a "bad twin?" Who the hell knows, I'm flummoxed.
I'm watching it now to see if she said Penelope Widmore or just Widmore
16 min. into the Brig, Naomi says her company was hired by Penelope Widmore.
thanks morgan, i couldn't remember which episode it was in
Alright guys, I'm done for the night. Got some job hunting to do, and Kim and Aimee I've almost completed my poem. Hoping that it will be featured on TLI. Goodnight
So Ben wins? Jack wishes he never left the island. Did Locke stay behind?
HOLEY MOLEY. waiting for Jay and Jack, then hitting the hay!
I'm heading off to dreamland too! It's been a long night.
P.S. My neighbors (I call them "the others") are having sex.
(shudders)
Goodnight all!
AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! (breathe)
I CAN FINALLY TALK ABOUT ALL THIS SHIT!!!! YESSSS!!!!
I had read the massive spoiler at Dark UFO and it has been REALLY har dto keep my over-active trap shut all week. I just kept telling myself 'maybe some of it was foilerish'.
But it did NOT matter because I LOVED this thing! The spoiler was right on with what it did reveal (although I did NOT read the subsequent updates that I heard they added to it) but I was on the Goddamn EDGE of my seat the entire time (boy is my ass tired - TWSS)
hang on - b back....
soo the people we know who are still alive from the others camp:
juliette
ben
richard
we need new bad guys...im thinking ben was right, naomi's boat are the bad guys
I too loved the treking through the jungle music too! i think that it was first heard when Sawyer Boone Shannon Sayid Kate and Chalie went to the take the tranciever to higher ground.
LOVE THAT THEME! i hummed along everytime they marched.
SOOO much to talk about - good thing we have (sigh) 8 f-ing months! (solitary tear down cheek)
Agree about Charlie's death being a bit of a WTF? I guess he locked the door so des wouldn't open it, but ther'd be plenty of tim for him and des to swim out wouldn't there. It was a really nice scene with the hand and all - but WTF?!?
Was a LEEEETLE pissed at Bernard at first - but it worked out because....
HURLEY!!!! FUCK....YEAH!!!!! I don't remember who said they were off the couch on their feet - that was me too. Hell yeah - most triumphant moment of the season I think.
Knowing that Jack's stuff was a flash-forward, the Christian Sheppard thing LEAPT out at me immediately. I had to physically squelch my WTF for my spoiler-free wife.
hang on - b back .....
MB- i can now go back and listen to all of your segments.
i liked the stuff i have heard already, but living spoiler free is the way to go.
you aint cool, unless you pee your pants.
it was nice of Oceanic to give all the survivors a Gold Pass!
i wonder if Hurley gets to show Sayid, "Say Anything"
RE: Christian Sheppard - while the idea of him being alive somehow is intriguing, I think Andrew nailed it when he said Jack was referencing Heavan as 'upstairs' - he was drnk and high off his ass and he says to the other doc (in other words) - "Dammit - you think i'm bad - it's because of my fucking dead drunk father!"
Vincent in Virginia asked why naomi hasn't just killed people - and i imagine its b/c she needs back up or there is some other plan in place which does not include her being Rambo.
I like the idea of the dead person being Rose - with her healing backstory she seems like she could have more story to go. And speaking of the whole cancer thing - why does she want to leave the island - or does she? Maybe she was just getting to safety.
I also like the idea of the dead person being Ben - but as my wife and someone here pointed out - the casket did look small - I thought small enough for an older child.
I did like Danielle and Alex reuniting - and that "I'll help you tie him up" was funny - a mother and daughter moment that is uniquely normal only on Lost island.
RE: Malcom saying that you hope Hanso doesn't factor in - the thing is, I think it kind of has to. The Hanso Foundation is pretty integral to the fabric of the story, and while I agree that the Lost experience fell kinda flat, I think it provided some good info, and was an anchor into the off-island world, which is now merging with the on-island stories.
I've got more - but i need water.....
as far as jack telling the new chief of surgery to go get his father is it possile has was just fucked up on booze and hillbilly heroin
just a thought
kris
lostboys podcast
the show is now completely different. there is no turning back from this. 3 more seasons of who knows what is about to happen in 8 months.... nice.
when Jack was in the funeral home and the guy asked him friend or family did he say either or neither not sure it matters but me and my fellow wachers just had a mini argement over it
Kris
Lostboys Podcast
Ralph - damn, you may need a stiff drink to sit though over 75 mins of my voice -lol
but thanks for wanting to!
any who off to bed
re: Morgan and JonJon wondering why Penny was right there calling out through the monitor - I imagine some alarm went off wherever she was when Charlie switched off the jamming signal, and her equipment was able to detect the island - or maybe just that her transmission was being received (I don't know how that kind of equipment works - though I SHOULD as I was a communications major in college).
So, we've got Penny and the "Bad guys" looking for the island - this is good stuff!
Going back up the thread - LMAO at Aimee's double "Damn You's" after the two KABLAMMOs :)))
OH (slumps back in chair).....egads.. i need rest :) (it's a good kind of tired - NO it's a GREAT kind of tired)
So....why does Jack want so desparately to get back? He says "We weren't SUPPOSED to leave:
After Jack talks about wanting each plane he's gets on to crash (he mentions destinations like Tokyo and Sydney which would take him westbound over the Pacific) so he can possibly "get back" they say:
Kate: This is not going to change
Jack: NO! I am SICK of LYING!! We made a mistake.
Kate: I have to go...he's going to be wondering where I am....
Jack: (Pulls her close) We...were not supposed to leave.
Kate: Yes, we were. goodbye Jack (goes to car)
Jack: We have to go back Kate! We have to go BACK!!!
So - what I glean from this interchange is that:
There's something about getting off the island that they are covering up (from whom I don't know - maybe everyone) and that Jack feels VERY morally conflicted about. Jack saying that they were not "supposed to leave" seems to me like he's either saying they weren't MEANT to go as in fate or destiny, or that is wasn't the RIGHT thing to do morally. Not sure which it is - Jack certainly is not a Man of Faith (belief in Fate/Destiny) on the island - but I'm guessing there is a LOT of story to be told between 2004 and that flash-forward.
And what was Kate's comment about "this isn't going to change" - could just be referring to her state of mind, but it could support an altered timeline idea as well. Although I'm leery of getting into alternate timeline talk at this point (mainly b/c it seems too simple an explanation - even as much as I am a sucker for timeline/time travel stories).
did i mention how awesome that thing was? night.
I've listened to the Lost boys podcast before. It's not very good and hard to listen to. A bit on the annoying side. Why does this guy advertise that crappy show so much on here?
I have to agree with MB, that the flash-forwards are definitely quite far into the future. It's not a case of them getting rescued next week and suddenly Jack grows an awesome beard. IT's like the first flash-backs, and how everyone assumed all there was in Locke's past was that he fucked up his legs, and that we'd find out soon enough. The gaps in that story took three years to fill in! So I think the 'him', the person in the casket and the big reason Jacks knows they shouldn't have left are yet to be revealed in on-island 'real time'. Or I could be very wrong and s04e01 starts with just Kate and a stubbly Jack being rescued, and Jack feels incredibly guilty for leaving everyone on the island.
I really like the idea that in time even Jack, the 'man of science' is convinced of the islands mystical powers. I like to think it's Ben in the casket and that before getting off the island there's a significant change in alleigance that I kind of hope would happen in this finale.
Oh, and in general. No listening post portugese people, no boat, no real Penny appearance. Did anyone else assume that we'd finally get to see some of these off-island people arriving, or at least on their way? I think that they thought the flash-forward was such an awesome reveal, they could just leave actualy stuff happening on the island for another couple of years. I'm kind of losing my patience.
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